Faf Ranking rename
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@miki1900 said in Faf Ranking rename:
if u havent sports knowlege u dont understand gold and silver, bronze too...
Everyone knew bronze < silver < gold since 3000 b.c. before sports even existed
what diamond?
what master?Goes after gold.
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@miki1900 said in Faf Ranking rename:
@brutus5000
its not military "knowledge", its basic knowledge.
people in z-generation dont know that captain is bigger than corporal? my god....
but we can replace example brigadier.I was born in the 80s and here in central europe this is not common knowledge.
"Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
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Have to agree with the most common argument here - military rank is not common knowledge at all. Not even for the populace of the countries that use them.
At best, you can argue people kinda understand the concept of captain (someone who has a larger number of men under his arm), admiral (controls big naval army) and general (controls big land army). And that's also mostly skewed from popular media (because that's how most get their knowledge).So yeah, neither common (in its naming scheme), nor common knowledge.
The "material" badges are common place in a lot of games to represent competitive rank. I'm sure 95% of the children populace would sooner understand if you told them you were "diamond" rank rather than "corporal" or whatever.
Also, as already mentioned, there's not only 3 tiers (bronze, silver, gold) to the FAF's ranking system, there's 6 (bronze, silver, gold, diamond, master, grandmaster).
Most games have ties to the Elo system, which, although not used by FAF, is the most prominent and actually well known system to rank competitive mastery. And it has its roots in chess, from which the "master" and "grandmaster" titles are derived from.
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u dont know, that captain is bigger than corporal?
im from central europe too, and its a basic knowledge....
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Still ignoring the fact there's more than just bronze/silver/gold. If you like the idea so much, expand what on Diamond, Master, and Grandmaster rankings should be called.
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do u need more army rank?
i write more, and u will be happy then? -
yeah, but diamond there isnt sports.
in CS majority like the military rank, everybody know that.
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and where is diamond in sports?
everybody knows that gold is bigger than silver,
and everybody knows that captain is bigger than corporal -
Even the topic aside if your system is better than the current one (which i think is dumb). You still have not made any suggestions for diamond, master and grandmaster
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There are a lot of military ranks. Do u want more? Why if the majority dont know, that major is bigger than captain?
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I never knew that military ranks were based on a persons height
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To be honest, I think it's based on weight.
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@miki1900 Thanks for the info. Also thanks that you ask the same question again. I am still waiting on your complete list for diamond and master so i can say its bad afterwards.
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I like these types of flavour text names since they relate to the aesthetic and lore of the game in a fun way. A lot of the fps games I've played have used similar and I've like them every time. The star craft wannabe names and symbols have always grated on me, but I guess that ship has sailed.
People mention familiarity, but what about the FA campaign? 'Brigadier General Fletcher', 'Colonel Arnold', 'Elite Commander Dostya', 'Princess Burke', 'Evaluator Kael', 'Crusader Rhiza', 'Avatar-of-War Jaran Marxon'. It's literally in the FA lore and you would have experienced it if you played the campaign. You could mess around with this to great effect with the in game ranking system. Imagine faction specific rankings too. So much potential.
Is there really an issue with not knowing the order? Is the initial experience of not knowing rank names so bad that seeing someone ranked 'Major' would concern an actual player? To a kid playing the game, and from my experience from when I was younger, these types of things provoke curiosity of the type 'I wonder what it means to be Major. When you rank up and see a new player with a rank you haven't seen before, it's exciting. You want to see how they play. It's fun. I think the pseudo larp of having 'real' ranks is fun. Why do people keep bringing up some sterile platitude of accessibility?
Seriously, think about it. 'Brigadier coca', 'Elite Commander ovenman', 'Avatar of War Derick Bobjack', 'Commander FTXCommando'.
Only real draw back is I only played in english. Not sure how the campaign translates these to other languages.
I want my gesamtkunstwerk.
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@miki1900 You proposed an idea, finish your proposition.
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@miki1900 said in Faf Ranking rename:
its not military "knowledge", its basic knowledge.
people in z-generation dont know that captain is bigger than corporal? my god....its not z-generation "knowledge", its basic knowledge.
people in b-generation dont know that master is bigger than diamond? my god.... -
Supreme commander is gold 1? That kind of rank must be an equivalent to GM. And still, I see no point in your alternative but as a way to confuse people
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Okay, it's now just "x doesn't know y????" Over and over again. I think the initial proposal has been adequately discussed.
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