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    Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?

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    • maudlin27M Offline
      maudlin27
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      I dont know if this is possible but having groups of engineers of different tech and factions that are selected at once be able to build anything that one of the selected engineers can (eg if you select 2 uef t2 engineers and 2 t3 aeon engineers, you could get them to build a t3 pgen (uef would assist the aeon engis) or a triad (aeon would assist the uef engis). Ideally via the main building selection screen and hotkeys but I expect only hotkeys might be feasible.
      Similarly seecting a mix of t1-t3 engis would allow building t3 buildings with the lower tech engis assisting the higher tech engis

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      • JipJ Offline
        Jip
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        @maudlin27 what you're asking is not possible. But we did implement a hotkey that allows you to quickly split your selection. See also:

        • https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/4587

        And then specifically option (7). You'll need two key bindings:

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        Then you hit the 1st one to create the splits, and hit the 2nd one to switch your selection between the splits. That way you can quickly do what you're asking:

        • first split only contains the highest tech (tech 3 in your example)
        • issue build order for tech 3 power generator
        • second / third split contains tech 2 or tech 1 engineers
        • issue assist order to one of the tech 3 engineers

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        • speed2S Offline
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          Galactic War

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          • Ctrl-KC Offline
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            Key actions overhaul πŸ‘€

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            • ThomasHiattT Offline
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              @jip said in Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?:

              I've looked into this. It appears the bomber acts as if it a regular move order and therefore de-accelerates too soon, causing the bomb it is dropping to hit somewhere in the vicinity, usually in front of the target

              Does that mean it can be fixed or not? Strange that changing the number of times it does a ground attack changes the interpretation of the order. I guess it is probably a new variable that was added with FA and was never properly implemented or something.

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              • ThomasHiattT Offline
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                Has anyone ever tried using DLL injection to get more control over engine side things? Maybe you could intercept calls to the audio API and fix them or pass them along to a more modern API to fix the sound bug. I don't know what else could be accomplished with it, I'm just vaguely aware of the technique.

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                • S Offline
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                  First-person ACU perspective

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                  • S Offline
                    STlNG
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                    Subs build underwater mass, hydro, sonar, and reclaim.

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                    • QuietJoyQ Offline
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                      I think the long term health of faf as a community would be greatly helped by a system of dealing with laggers. I can only imagine the frustration of new players if their early games all have laggers in them. I'd be surprised if they didn't assume that FAF was not worth playing as a result.
                      We need a system to enable us, as a community, to flag players that cause issues. Flagged players can then be educated in how to improve their setup or maybe put in a pool of similar players.
                      It's insane to me that in a 12 player game for example if there is even one lagger then 11 other people have to have their fun spoiled. You just don't get that in real life, you'd move away from such selfish people, whereas in FAF I cannot.

                      At the very least, as an absolute starting point, if every player (including myself obviously) could see how many times they have been set as FOE that would be eye-opening...!

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                      • CheeseBerryC Offline
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                        @cheeseberry said in Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?:

                        How about overlays for units and structures as implemented in e.g. ecomanager and idle-engineers?

                        Quite a few of the better players use ecomanager purely for the overlays and having a nicer looking version of idle engineers accessible to everyone from the settings menu would certainly be amazing πŸ˜„

                        @Jip asked me to elaborate a bit on what those overlays do, so here we go:

                        Ecomanager adds a mex-overlay which shows you if a mex is currently being idle or upgrading depending on the color of the overlay:
                        Screenshot_62.png

                        Idle Engineers adds a black overlay over idle engies
                        Screenshot_63.png

                        and over idle factories
                        Screenshot_66.png

                        All three of them are really useful for figuring out a glance what your stuff is doing and where new orders need to be given.

                        Ecomanager also adds a variety of other overlays, most notably overlays for nukes and smds that tell you how many missiles are loaded and how long it will take to build the next one:
                        Screenshot_67.png

                        Both mods actually have more overlay features, e.g. information about the state of something depending on its color, and ecomanager is even able to tell you how many missiles are loaded in your allies smd, somehow. (If both players use ecomanager, anyway.)

                        As should be obvious the above overlays are not the prettiest, but they are imo very useful and I do think there is quite a bit of potential here.

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                          @serpentor Even Starcraft 1 shows to each player how laggy every other player is to them.

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                          • ZLOZ Offline
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                            net-lag reduction, idk how. almost never see anyone able to reconnect to the game. Tho sometimes they do reconnect but they already got ejected by like 1 player and then you get 2 players that can never reconnect while the rest are connected and game gets stuck.
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                              Beetles should be able to cross water like rhinos do. Whether or not they should function as depth charges as they crawl over the seabed I'll leave to smarter minds than me.

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                              • Sladow-NoobS Offline
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                                "[...] cross water like Rhinos do" - enough FAF forum for today. Smfh everyone getting the trainer-icon these days!

                                Inactive.

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                                • TheWeakieT Offline
                                  TheWeakie Balance Team
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                                  Not really a big thing but remove acu from select all idle engineers selection. In my 5000 games its never been usefull and always been annoying

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                                  • DeribusD Offline
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                                    There's a separate keybind for select all idle engineers excluding ACU

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                                      TheWeakie Balance Team
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                                      I got scammed

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                                        • SpikeyNoobS Offline
                                          SpikeyNoob Global Moderator @Sladow-Noob
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                                          @sladow-noob said in Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?:

                                          "[...] cross water like Rhinos do" - enough FAF forum for today. Smfh everyone getting the trainer-icon these days!

                                          The maths dont lie! Rhinos can swim!

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                                          • S Offline
                                            STlNG
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                                            Decoy units and structures.

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