I was investigating on my sound issue with localized voices and noticed the cache was not purged after FAF updates.

So many FAF obsolete versions are remaining stored there for nothing.

Take a look at AppData\Local\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\cache

BTW :
I'm wondering how to run FA with the /purgecache command line switch through FAF.

More about this issue :

I've noticed by verifying "AppData\Local\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\Game.prefs" that the voice volume was OFF, while it was at MAX in the Options window in-game :

options = {
    (...)
    vo_volume = 0,
    (...)
},

The localized voices are still muted in spite of my attempts to :

• set the volume to the MAX from the Options window in-game.
• click on [Apply].
• click on [OK].

I've even thought I had to quit the game and launch it again after this change, to no avail.

I've openned game.prefs with NP++ and noticed the value was still vo_volume = 0,.
So I've changed it for vo_volume = 100,, but it's had no effect at all.

FA v1.6.6 's localized voices are definitely like "broken" since I installed FAF, even by running the game without FAF.

Help will be much appreciated.

S... T... O... P... do you read me ? over

if you're bored, I have a good reading for you

now stop this dumb "game" kidz.
come out and play with your district's kidz.
so intolerant with the ones who think not like you...
peace off

nobody asked devs to alterr the genuine game without keeping a way to play it as it was...

Everytime I launch FAF, my FA v1.6.6 (Steam) is turned to English language, while it was initialy in my native language.

The problem :
FAF has changed my game.prefs for an incorrect language !
Open AppData\Local\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\Game.prefs and take a look at :

• the field language = 'us',
• the field selectedlanguage = 'us',

while these should be set on my country code...

Also, FAF is ignoring where to access the good old localised audio folder and files :

• When I set it to some language, the Tutos won't play given they're in english because the engine is "lost in translation"..
• FAF is set to english by default and doesn't set for us the proper localisation.

Last but not least :
I noticed that the visual parts of the speeches aka videos were hugely accelerated with no audio. (like 5 times faster)
IMHO this means the XACT Audio engine is one of the main cause of FA's slowdowns...

You're so righteous that you convinced me to disable forever the mods that sit here FAForever Data\cache\featured_mod\gamedata, by hoping to be able to enjoy the game with the few interesting updates/new features only.
Among other things I wll get rid of : the still-work-in-progress-SACU-thing, the HQs buildings system and the "rebalanced"-engies

I must to underline that FAF devs have left no choice to toggle on/off those features (through mod manager ?), they are simply imposed... and they don't fit all players.

I've appreciated the patience of some helping persons and thank them a bunch for their efforts.

The other ones were just a background noise...

@thomashiatt said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

I have no idea what this is referring to,

It refers to shield spill something (maybe spill-over)
This was done because some players found the shields too tough.

@arma473 said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Also, this game was not designed to take advantage of multi-core. So it's basically dependent on your single core performance (as well as RAM). But half of the advancement over the last 15 years is in having more cores.

I've read somewhere that CoreMaximizer was good for Win 7 users only...
It was given on GPG as THE solution to the use of multi-core CPUs...

However I don't know how does the game manage the multi-core GPUs

@thomashiatt said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

How are HQ snipes limiting strategic gameplay? The fact that you can snipe an HQ is literally an additional strategy being added into the game.

Like weakening the shields ?

@nex said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

@manimal_ said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Performances issues with a 15 years old game on nowadays PCs.... ROFL

Uhm yes.

Small screenshot from a recent game. 16 minutes in with speed set to +0, but it slows down to -1 due to too many units.

Is there still an issue with pathfinding computation ?
Unless you're playing on a laptop PC, being short in DDR RAM and/or with a medium end CPU / GPU ?

Laptops are way too compact to embed enough components and to be cooled down efficiently in the mean time...

Not mentioning the quality of internet connexion of all players in a game. (I've played with people who had a terrible wifi connexion, frequently disconnected , or their sync was delayed... what a pain)

Some persons like FAF as it is. Some don't for their own reasons.
I'm in between them.
I think FAF could be much more cool, but the genuine FA engine has its weaknesses due to the dev's tech choices... They complained about Xact Audio engine for instance, if I remember well.
There was a "similar" issue with Total Annihilation 's Peewees and Flash Tanks that was solved by turning off their weapon's sound.

Performances issues with a 15 years old game on nowadays PCs.... ROFL

I'm too confident in some people affirmations about engies :
@zlo said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Nah, t1 engineers are more mass and power efficient, if you don't use those you will be at disadvantage.

@veteranashe said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Only t1 engines and one factory is efficient.

And there's no netiquette rule speaking of the use of bold chars.

Thanks

@veteranashe said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Only t1 engines and one factory is efficient.
(...)
The hq system is really easy

Please, just make a pause : stand back and take a sit, then consider the whole thing.

What would you think of such RTS game which doesn't allow you to spread any buildings freely ?
Who like games that are limiting high tech building cap ?
"Oh too bad, you've lost dis stoopeed HQ. Dat cutz your wingz, so rebuild it at all cost or this game will be over"

Side note :
Buildings are counted as units, which is wrong IMHO.
Why ? Because they are not units, as simple as that.
So my idea is to no longer include buildings within the unit count.
This might lead to create a separated building counter.
This way, when you'd see 1000 units in your counter, this would mean you have 1000 running on the battle field, buildings excluded.

@i_forgorthescene said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Nobody upgrades SACU's anyway.

@brannou said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

, they are not that vastely used

• How / Why did this happen ?
• is there some remedy to this ?

You want to turn your SACUs into Rambos ? T
IMHO, this would mean there should be 2 totally different SACUs, including their visuals :

• a SACU that's purely a fighter with its pre-build stuff. But isn't this the T3 bot's and eventual T4 bot's job to be such Rambo ?
• a SACU that's purely an engie with or without its own pre-build stuff, remaining unaffected by the order of its upgrades.

And what about LOW Tech engineers that became more efficient, turning suddenly HIGH Tech into useless engies (or so) ?
errr wait ! WHY and HOW could they be more efficient ?
Higher Tech is meant to be superior to lower Tech or does the world now turns upside down ???

EDIT: my feeling is the game is becoming some sort of Starcraft and this sux hard. FA is losing its soul and its uniqueness !!!

@nex said in Enlightment needed on some details:

ah yes from the FAF wiki

This is it...
https://wiki.faforever.com/en/Game-Modifications-(Mods)#integrated-mods

Thanks for the enlightments.

@nex said in Enlightment needed on some details.:

by making T2/e engies

EDIT: I guess you wanted to type "3" (it's above "e")

Another question :
Does this work with AZERTY keyboards ?

I'm feeling a bit lost with all of the changes.
Maybe this will change after a few game.
But I'll be busy from next week, this lets little free time for playing.

Now I think my thread should move to general discussion... or not.

@genos said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Is it circus? Or am i in a wrong place?

@genos said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Everlasting Circus

Always criticizing others and never giving a hand ?
Nothing more constructive to say or do ?

I agree Air Factories are the only one that change so little after techin up, while the other ones have a neatly different look.
Maybe my memories are confusing some old mod's Air Factories on which I've worked with the non-mod"ed ones.

If I was able to do it in a short time, then I'd make new models that would work like Land Factories and their "towers"...
Result : buildings instantly spotted.

Sea factories are rather ok but would diserve some more details

About icons:
This makes me think of my attempt to get "WYSIWYG" like icons in SC and FA back in the days.
Icons shape were looking like units's shape...

@spikeynoob said in SACUs and Factories Upgrades questions:

Seems like a skill issue, just look at the buildings its not that hard.

it is hard to my old eyes... tiny icons with even tinyer Tech marks... d'oh !

And It's getting worse by zoom out

It is a problem when I think I'm having a Tech 1 building which is actualy a higher Tech one.

I'm used to the GOOD old visuals...

Historicaly , the buildings gain 1 "Tower" per Tech level :

• 1 "Tower" = T1 (the initial look of a factory)
• 2 "Towers" = T2
• 3 "Towers" = T3

This way to show up Tech levels was (and is still) good, clear, not ambiguous.

Could somebody make the text in the picture below a little more clear ?

so many "are"... sound like "arrr arrr"