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    Is it OK that engi stations can eat experimentals?

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    • ? Offline
      A Former User @maudlin27
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      @maudlin27 said in Is it OK that engi stations can eat experimentals?:

      they die easily to any anti-air and to asfs

      ASFs don't target flying drones.

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      • maudlin27M Offline
        maudlin27 @Guest
        last edited by maudlin27

        @melanol Strange, I thought I'd seen asfs wipe out an enemy shield once targeting drones that were underneath the shield, must've been some other air unit that was nearby

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        • ComradeStrykerC Offline
          ComradeStryker
          last edited by ComradeStryker

          @maudlin27
          All Anti-Air fire, with the exceptionion of ASF fire, can target Kennel drones.
          This includes Frigates, cruisers, Flak, static and mobile, etc. All other AA.

          The reason for this is because ASF deal large amounts of damage and therefore shredded through shields.

          Though, a funny and cheesy strategy -at the time,- it didn't make sense for an Air-to-Air unit to deal damage to shields; Not only did it not make sense for them to shoot shields, but, that was considered 'OP' and even broken.
          Again, a very cheesy strategy to deplete shields.

          Hence, why their ability to target drones was removed as of... a lot of patches ago.


          Even then, Kennels still are wack. But it's nice they're getting a look at.
          As for them being able to reclaim an experimental, I've never seen that done with Kennel drones, so if at all, Hives should have this ability removed.
          Kennels too, to make it even and fair, but, it still wouldn't make a difference to them.


          ~ Stryker

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          • MachM Offline
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            • TheWeakieT Offline
              TheWeakie Balance Team
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              Using kennels as reclaim should be completely out of the question from the start since they dont move with the unit while reclaiming, so unless you have an hour of time you aint reclaiming a gc thats being microed.

              Hives work way easier for this since they have way more range so you cant just walk a t4 or some randon t3 units in a hive farm range, although you should realise that walking units into range of a 20k mass shielded bp farm is probably not the best idea

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              • ComradeStrykerC Offline
                ComradeStryker @TheWeakie
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                @thewheelie said in Is it OK that engi stations can eat experimentals?:

                Using kennels as reclaim should be completely out of the question from the start since they dont move with the unit while reclaiming

                Can't this be fixed if Kennels could reclaim with Patrol or Attack-Move? They'd follow the unit, then, no?

                (Then again, one AA will make all the difference, regardless.)


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                • DeribusD Offline
                  Deribus Global Moderator
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                  I think people missed that I was joking with kennels reclaiming GCs. Offensive reclaim with kennel drones is a complete non-issue in current balance. It's only hives that you'll occasionally see do it.

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                  • TheWeakieT Offline
                    TheWeakie Balance Team @ComradeStryker
                    last edited by

                    @comradestryker

                    they can't reclaim while following so it'd be useless regardless

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                    • LunyshkoL Offline
                      Lunyshko @Guest
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                      @melanol said in Is it OK that engi stations can eat experimentals?:

                      • Came from underwater

                      • Lost all antiair and charging to an important target before the experimental dies to gunships

                      • UEF engi station flyers can go anywhere

                      all t4s have a flack so the drones reclaiming t4 is such a blunder

                      "Good luck and a safe landing commanders!"

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                      • FtXCommandoF Offline
                        FtXCommando
                        last edited by

                        GC has no aa

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                        • LunyshkoL Offline
                          Lunyshko
                          last edited by

                          GC is a fast boy he wont get really reclaimed

                          "Good luck and a safe landing commanders!"

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                          • MachM Offline
                            Mach @FtXCommando
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                            @ftxcommando said in Is it OK that engi stations can eat experimentals?:

                            GC has no aa

                            let its claws pull enemy air too

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                            • ? Offline
                              A Former User @Lunyshko
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                              @rottenbanana said in Is it OK that engi stations can eat experimentals?:

                              all t4s have a flack so the drones reclaiming t4 is such a blunder

                              Only Czar, Atlantis and Ythotha.

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                              • LunyshkoL Offline
                                Lunyshko @Guest
                                last edited by Lunyshko

                                @melanol ml mega and even fatso do have aa and mega has flack so dont lie to me

                                "Good luck and a safe landing commanders!"

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