@Rowey scrap the new cybran unit - create cybran shield breaker sacu

also use the shoulder mounted gun ("sam" bone) on the uef sacu as an anti air weapon.

@FtXCommando @Jip @Tagada After reading these posts It seems to me that there are two groups of people

Group 1. People who like Supcom the way it is, and thats what makes it great.

Group 2. People who want to improve supcom so that it can be as good as it can be.

these two groups are abviously polar opposites and will never see eye to eye.

The solution?

Just as a player can choose between FAF, FAF Beta & FAF Develop maybe another option could be FAF classic where all the changes that have been highlighted as controversial can be reversed and therefor preserved for everyone and regular FAF that seeks to improve the experiance.

@Deribus thats interesting, I would have assumed the opposite was true

I have been playing around in sandbox and thought I would compare some units.

It turns out 20 Cybran Gunships is the equivalent in mass but hase no where near the same dps

also the combined hp of 20 gunships is 118,00 compared to the rippers 75000

so my question is, what role does a soul ripper have? if it is completely out performed buy its t3 counterpart?

The picture demonstrates the dps of t3 gunships compared to the week ripper, the gc on the right still has 65000 hp

T3 gunships are more expensive on energy but seeing as having a large air grid also means lots of energy i dont see this as being an issue

I will concede that my earlier point about smaller maps being for more high level players was flawed as was pointed out by @StormLantern

however the only thing I stand by is that when it comes to maps for particular skill levels is the map complexity that has the largest impact.

So I would put farward this argument, the lower level maps should be as plain and as simple as possible, with no terrain or water or reclaim, and as skill level rises so to should the map complexity slowly adding features like plateaus, water and civilian structures to reclaim or capture

@maudlin27 said in What can be done to make 1v1 more popular?:

Interesting, the data looks like almost every rank prefers 10km the most; yet the map pool for lower ranked players is overwhelmingly 5km.

Theres your answer.

10k hits the sweet spot that allows for more varied play compared to 5k and in most cases wont leed to 1hr plus games.

As with all things in life, it requires balance, saying large maps are for these people and small maps are for these people I believe not for the best.

another way of looking at this is that small maps require more micro and therefor suite a higher skill, and larger maps require more macro wich is something most players are familiar with.

lower skilled players can manage eco and these sorts of things but do not understand how to best use those units when they have been made, for instance i often see 1k players make rocket bots but then just suicide them in with t1 ect aswell as undertsanding that flares can beat mech marines but if microed the opposite can be true this is not a low level thing.

small maps mean that the loss of every single unit counts and could mean the differance between winning or losing whereas on larger maps there is more room for error.

I believe a map size that would provide the best experiances would be 10-12km

the only differance i can see in skill required for a map would be how much water there is, having a third factor to manage ontop of air and land would increase the challange, even more so with faction diversity, low players would struggle when their opponent spams zues or aeon t1 tanks on a navy based map when they are uef or cybran.

A few reasons for me

1. the maps - this is obviously a personal preferance and will be different for everyone but i dont like small maps or large maps or navy maps so that puts me of playing because the chances of me getting a map that i would want to play on would be like 1/10

1.1 small maps are very micro intensive and usually result in very short meaningless games, large maps leed to long boring games

2. rating, i dont play many 1v1s so my 1v1 at the min is not reflective of my true skill and i can say the same for many others, i came across this guy the other day with 3 games rated at 400 but played like a 1400 at least, so you just dont know what caliber of player your going to be up against as its all over the place.

3. its just not as fun as playing with others, more so if in discord with friends.

4. you cant blame your teammates for doing random stuff

this is like comparing percies to labs, high damage and slow rate of fire vs spam = lots of wasted dps,

making frigates would have made all that spam useless.

I would like to report a bug that some UEF drones cannot be killed and therefor can go around reclaiming ur base and theres nothing you can do about it.

replay #22643418

you can see in the image that asf fly straight pass and cannot kill them.

@deletethis

Perhaps it could be a game settings option?

HI all,

I have just had what i think could be a cool idea.

When the system detects a player disconnect for whatever reason, instead of the com exploding in full share games and killing units and engies around it, it would play the teleport effect instead, explosion would be only upon player killed.

What y'all think?

@TheWeakieNoob @Endranii

I get the = mass argument however mavor doesnt have 100% accuracy, vision and omni and even the mavor doesnt have unlimited range limited to 4000 I think, mavor also needs adjecent t3 pgens to make it fire faster wich means its easier to kill, so 8 novax is far better value for money than a mavor, wouldnt you agree?

Nerf Novax when?

I just played a game where the opponent build 8 novax then just whent around the map executing coms at will.

I like some of the suggestions such as

reducing the damage the further away the sat gets from the station

increaseing cost

or things like limiting the range or making it just an intel unit like the eye for aeon.

but something needs to be done about it, in my humble opinion.

@jip Hi, I have this set up and running however it seems that the offline part doesnt share the same file path for maps as there are only about 10 maps showing for me and non that i have downloaded from faf, any idea whats going on? Thanks.

TML are by far the largest thing I dislike about this game;

1. they can reach a hella large distance so on large maps you have to build a lot of TMD so 1 TML = about 10 TMD
2. only built by t2 engies, so its even harder to spread TMD around, and if some try hard rushes TML launcher takes out your hq you can then no longer build T2 engies and the game is over.
3. To much damage only 2 to kill a un-upgraded com thats standing still and doesnt leave any mass behind when killing t2 mexes.
4. large capacity, so you can easily string 4-5 launches in a very small amount of time and kill opponents eco.
5. very cheap for a t2 unit can easily be made with t1 energy.

Has anybody noticed that the depth chargers on the Zcar dont actually do anything, they lauch into the water and then just sink to the bottom, I though that was strange as they used to work like torpedoes, or has there been an updade that i have missed?

Seems that 10s of thousands of mass and energy just disapear into nothinness now for no reason when you or another player dies on full share, feels like a kick in the balls.

@MostLostNoob ah thankyou, very impressive unit, i like how it swims

@MostLostNoob a new unit or a mod?