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    Is an Idea about rankings at FAF with stats from Tourneys/tbh

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    • SwkollS Offline
      Swkoll Global Moderator
      last edited by

      This might merit it's own thread, but I ran the ELO algorithm on some major tourney matches since LoTS 2019 and got these ELOs:

      Nexus 1099.272909
      Tagada 1070.33372
      Espi 1060.08074
      Blackheart 1047.381412
      Petric 1044.282831
      TURBO2 1024.775141
      Blodir 1021.094128
      Swkoll 1010.023158
      Tex 1004.427425
      Shen 1003.998818
      Paralon 1003.335188
      Yudi 1002.167972
      Box 995.9772686
      Bennis 995.6637473
      WhiteOwl 995.61104
      NarNerdPower 995.3611353
      WoundedElk 995.0967664
      Bloodoath 995.0031833
      Raider 995
      keyser 994.8622503
      Thomas 991.235657
      Farms 990.694092
      Lucied 990.6756125
      Zlo 990.6425223
      Ryfun 990.6351441
      Death_Squad 990.0719798
      Isen 990.0698799
      Adjux 989.8622984
      Bully 985.9777318
      Aurico 985.5310263
      boom 985.5117396
      Smith 985.2848209
      Hybrid 980.8372869
      Jagged 977.9022702
      BlinChlk 976.6583887
      Blast 973.5038839
      Kot 970.030741
      Arch 964.6365672
      Turin 964.1520327
      Eternal 962.337489

      The dataset only has 196 series right now so it's very rough but it gives a rough idea of who has had good tourney performance in the last 2 years.

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      • FemtoZettaF Offline
        FemtoZetta
        last edited by

        Does it get resetted every year or will it just be a permanent ladder?

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        • J Offline
          JazzFunkNoob @Swkoll
          last edited by

          @swkoll Did you use the same sigma as in chess? The distribution appears to be very tight. Or is it just the lack of games so far?

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          • SwkollS Offline
            Swkoll Global Moderator @JazzFunkNoob
            last edited by

            @harzer99 I used https://pypi.org/project/elo/ with 1000 default rating. Everyone just has very few games because there haven't been that many tourneys + I didn't bother going back past 2019 LotS.

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            • MrBeastM Offline
              MrBeast
              last edited by

              Not sure if this elos really told who is better, somehow it need to compare with true ladder winnings, maybe league seasons stats.

              DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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              • T Offline
                Tagada Balance Team
                last edited by

                Ladder league results are misleading in terms of who is the best cause very few top 5 players participate in them.

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                • MrBeastM Offline
                  MrBeast
                  last edited by

                  and that is true too <(

                  DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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                  • T Offline
                    Tagada Balance Team
                    last edited by

                    I think that in terms of determining top 10 players it's best to only look at the big premiere events like Swkoll's invitationals and LoTS (and upcomming Mini Lots tourneys)

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                    • T Offline
                      Tagada Balance Team
                      last edited by

                      That's basically what Swkoll's Leadearboard does and for the top 8 players I think it's pretty accurate but it gets less accurate with the lower seeds.

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                      • MrBeastM Offline
                        MrBeast
                        last edited by

                        @tagada so is my stats there post I does is shows real statistics.Good

                        DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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                        • BlackheartB Offline
                          Blackheart
                          last edited by

                          Sadly those elo stats are completely useless, the distribution is way too tight - this list says things like bennis vs nexus is only like 65-70% winrate for nexus.

                          Your best clue to see who is good is asking the top players, we have nothing else. It also varies a ton depending on form/rust/maps/etc.

                          Ban Anime

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                          • T Offline
                            Tex Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            No shit. But its a cool thing to look at the relative hierarchy for tournament matches.

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