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    Is an Idea about rankings at FAF with stats from Tourneys/tbh

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    • MrBeastM Offline
      MrBeast
      last edited by MrBeast

      I think stats might be update and showed an not farmed rating as global/tmm/ladder, is real places at the scene.

      DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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      • FtXCommandoF Offline
        FtXCommando
        last edited by

        It’s decent but currently could only really would work with 1v1 since it’s the only area with a consistent enough schedule to do a leaderboard off of.

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        • SwkollS Offline
          Swkoll Global Moderator
          last edited by

          This might merit it's own thread, but I ran the ELO algorithm on some major tourney matches since LoTS 2019 and got these ELOs:

          Nexus 1099.272909
          Tagada 1070.33372
          Espi 1060.08074
          Blackheart 1047.381412
          Petric 1044.282831
          TURBO2 1024.775141
          Blodir 1021.094128
          Swkoll 1010.023158
          Tex 1004.427425
          Shen 1003.998818
          Paralon 1003.335188
          Yudi 1002.167972
          Box 995.9772686
          Bennis 995.6637473
          WhiteOwl 995.61104
          NarNerdPower 995.3611353
          WoundedElk 995.0967664
          Bloodoath 995.0031833
          Raider 995
          keyser 994.8622503
          Thomas 991.235657
          Farms 990.694092
          Lucied 990.6756125
          Zlo 990.6425223
          Ryfun 990.6351441
          Death_Squad 990.0719798
          Isen 990.0698799
          Adjux 989.8622984
          Bully 985.9777318
          Aurico 985.5310263
          boom 985.5117396
          Smith 985.2848209
          Hybrid 980.8372869
          Jagged 977.9022702
          BlinChlk 976.6583887
          Blast 973.5038839
          Kot 970.030741
          Arch 964.6365672
          Turin 964.1520327
          Eternal 962.337489

          The dataset only has 196 series right now so it's very rough but it gives a rough idea of who has had good tourney performance in the last 2 years.

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          • FemtoZettaF Offline
            FemtoZetta
            last edited by

            Does it get resetted every year or will it just be a permanent ladder?

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            • J Offline
              JazzFunkNoob @Swkoll
              last edited by

              @swkoll Did you use the same sigma as in chess? The distribution appears to be very tight. Or is it just the lack of games so far?

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              • SwkollS Offline
                Swkoll Global Moderator @JazzFunkNoob
                last edited by

                @harzer99 I used https://pypi.org/project/elo/ with 1000 default rating. Everyone just has very few games because there haven't been that many tourneys + I didn't bother going back past 2019 LotS.

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                • MrBeastM Offline
                  MrBeast
                  last edited by

                  Not sure if this elos really told who is better, somehow it need to compare with true ladder winnings, maybe league seasons stats.

                  DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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                  • T Offline
                    Tagada Balance Team
                    last edited by

                    Ladder league results are misleading in terms of who is the best cause very few top 5 players participate in them.

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                    • MrBeastM Offline
                      MrBeast
                      last edited by

                      and that is true too <(

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                      • T Offline
                        Tagada Balance Team
                        last edited by

                        I think that in terms of determining top 10 players it's best to only look at the big premiere events like Swkoll's invitationals and LoTS (and upcomming Mini Lots tourneys)

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                        • T Offline
                          Tagada Balance Team
                          last edited by

                          That's basically what Swkoll's Leadearboard does and for the top 8 players I think it's pretty accurate but it gets less accurate with the lower seeds.

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                          • MrBeastM Offline
                            MrBeast
                            last edited by

                            @tagada so is my stats there post I does is shows real statistics.Good

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                            • BlackheartB Offline
                              Blackheart
                              last edited by

                              Sadly those elo stats are completely useless, the distribution is way too tight - this list says things like bennis vs nexus is only like 65-70% winrate for nexus.

                              Your best clue to see who is good is asking the top players, we have nothing else. It also varies a ton depending on form/rust/maps/etc.

                              Ban Anime

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                              • T Offline
                                Tex Global Moderator
                                last edited by

                                No shit. But its a cool thing to look at the relative hierarchy for tournament matches.

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