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    Is an Idea about rankings at FAF with stats from Tourneys/tbh

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    • FtXCommandoF Offline
      FtXCommando
      last edited by

      It’s decent but currently could only really would work with 1v1 since it’s the only area with a consistent enough schedule to do a leaderboard off of.

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      • SwkollS Offline
        Swkoll Global Moderator
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        This might merit it's own thread, but I ran the ELO algorithm on some major tourney matches since LoTS 2019 and got these ELOs:

        Nexus 1099.272909
        Tagada 1070.33372
        Espi 1060.08074
        Blackheart 1047.381412
        Petric 1044.282831
        TURBO2 1024.775141
        Blodir 1021.094128
        Swkoll 1010.023158
        Tex 1004.427425
        Shen 1003.998818
        Paralon 1003.335188
        Yudi 1002.167972
        Box 995.9772686
        Bennis 995.6637473
        WhiteOwl 995.61104
        NarNerdPower 995.3611353
        WoundedElk 995.0967664
        Bloodoath 995.0031833
        Raider 995
        keyser 994.8622503
        Thomas 991.235657
        Farms 990.694092
        Lucied 990.6756125
        Zlo 990.6425223
        Ryfun 990.6351441
        Death_Squad 990.0719798
        Isen 990.0698799
        Adjux 989.8622984
        Bully 985.9777318
        Aurico 985.5310263
        boom 985.5117396
        Smith 985.2848209
        Hybrid 980.8372869
        Jagged 977.9022702
        BlinChlk 976.6583887
        Blast 973.5038839
        Kot 970.030741
        Arch 964.6365672
        Turin 964.1520327
        Eternal 962.337489

        The dataset only has 196 series right now so it's very rough but it gives a rough idea of who has had good tourney performance in the last 2 years.

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        • FemtoZettaF Offline
          FemtoZetta
          last edited by

          Does it get resetted every year or will it just be a permanent ladder?

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          • J Offline
            JazzFunkNoob @Swkoll
            last edited by

            @swkoll Did you use the same sigma as in chess? The distribution appears to be very tight. Or is it just the lack of games so far?

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            • SwkollS Offline
              Swkoll Global Moderator @JazzFunkNoob
              last edited by

              @harzer99 I used https://pypi.org/project/elo/ with 1000 default rating. Everyone just has very few games because there haven't been that many tourneys + I didn't bother going back past 2019 LotS.

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              • MrBeastM Offline
                MrBeast
                last edited by

                Not sure if this elos really told who is better, somehow it need to compare with true ladder winnings, maybe league seasons stats.

                DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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                • T Offline
                  Tagada Balance Team
                  last edited by

                  Ladder league results are misleading in terms of who is the best cause very few top 5 players participate in them.

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                  • MrBeastM Offline
                    MrBeast
                    last edited by

                    and that is true too <(

                    DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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                    • T Offline
                      Tagada Balance Team
                      last edited by

                      I think that in terms of determining top 10 players it's best to only look at the big premiere events like Swkoll's invitationals and LoTS (and upcomming Mini Lots tourneys)

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                      • T Offline
                        Tagada Balance Team
                        last edited by

                        That's basically what Swkoll's Leadearboard does and for the top 8 players I think it's pretty accurate but it gets less accurate with the lower seeds.

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                        • MrBeastM Offline
                          MrBeast
                          last edited by

                          @tagada so is my stats there post I does is shows real statistics.Good

                          DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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                          • BlackheartB Offline
                            Blackheart
                            last edited by

                            Sadly those elo stats are completely useless, the distribution is way too tight - this list says things like bennis vs nexus is only like 65-70% winrate for nexus.

                            Your best clue to see who is good is asking the top players, we have nothing else. It also varies a ton depending on form/rust/maps/etc.

                            Ban Anime

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                            • T Offline
                              Tex Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              No shit. But its a cool thing to look at the relative hierarchy for tournament matches.

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