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    • Sladow-NoobS Offline
      Sladow-Noob @Morax
      last edited by

      @morax That's interesting, always thought it's the other way around aka lower ranked ones get high ranked maps if they play with us. I think that indeed explains why I keep up getting the same maps over and over again

      Inactive.

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      • K Offline
        kdrafa91
        last edited by

        played 4v4
        Win
        Game was not rated: unknown result

        Is this normal on ladder?

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        • YewY Offline
          Yew
          last edited by

          Setons is the perfect 4v4 map.

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          • MoraxM Offline
            Morax @kdrafa91
            last edited by

            @kdrafa91 said in Matchmaker Pool Feedback Thread:

            played 4v4
            Win
            Game was not rated: unknown result

            Is this normal on ladder?

            No, but this is also a thread about the maps used in the pools. I would recommend discussing this in the "I need help" forum (and its sub forums) or the #technical-help channels in the FAF discord:

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            • TheVVheelboyT Offline
              TheVVheelboy
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              Addition of adaptive lone Eagle should be imo reconsidered by the TMM team due to bad texturing and terrain sculpting which doesn't allow players to tell what is a hill or not at first glance, instead requiring to zoom in close and even free-cam to find the reason why engineers aren't capable of reaching the reclaim and mexes. It literally costed me 2 idle engineers in the beginning of the game due to how poorly the elevation and impassable terrain is conveyed on this map which imo is inexcusable.

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                Exselsior
                last edited by

                Yeah I played one game on there and my build on it got cancered thinking I could walk to the hydro behind me. Was a very gassed start because I couldn’t tell the terrain wasn’t passable. Maybe that’s a me problem though

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                • MoraxM Offline
                  Morax
                  last edited by

                  @E33144211332424 @Exselsior FYI:

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                  We will be removing it from future pools until the author updates the map.

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                    Nooby
                    last edited by

                    The Bjarg map is not one i like, very misleading unreclaimable wrecks that should be removed from the map, or map removed from pool

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                    • RoweyR Offline
                      Rowey
                      last edited by

                      that's just part of the Maps aesthetics it take you 1 game to know that certain wreck arent reclaimable + if you just one quick Ctrl+shift you can clearly see that they have no mass value

                      "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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                        Nooby
                        last edited by

                        No other map I have ever seen has this. It is just needless, unfriendly and unintuitive. Seems very silly to introduce this mechanic for a single map. The it takes 1 game argument does not hold up.

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                        • MoraxM Offline
                          Morax
                          last edited by

                          There was a large amount of feedback regarding visuals of the map being difficult to read as well, so it likely won’t be in folding pools until it is updated a bit.

                          I will mention this to the author as well.

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                            XerxesGRONDNoob
                            last edited by

                            I would enjoy a reduction of the percentage chance that I get a map gen pool map whilst searching in the competitive mode, I have been experiencing, through bad luck or whatever other factors are at play, 3/4 map gen matches in succession. Seems a bit much. I thank you all, much love

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                              Dukes
                              last edited by Dukes

                              Hi, was playing 2v2 ladder and got the map Xellaria. The map is way too dark to play on and is really difficult to see the terrain changes. Also with fog of war and radar pings it basically blends into the background, When the game ended and put us into obvs view it was actually a lot brighter and easier to see. any chance it could be made to that light level permanently

                              sorry, just seen the map is already being removed for next pool ect

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                              • MoraxM Offline
                                Morax @XerxesGRONDNoob
                                last edited by

                                @xerxesgrondnoob said in Matchmaker Pool Feedback Thread:

                                I would enjoy a reduction of the percentage chance that I get a map gen pool map whilst searching in the competitive mode, I have been experiencing, through bad luck or whatever other factors are at play, 3/4 map gen matches in succession. Seems a bit much. I thank you all, much love

                                So I have been playing ladder quite a bit recently and have not noticed this, myself. 3/4 matches sounds really, really high. Has this issue persisted for you?

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                                • MoraxM Offline
                                  Morax @Dukes
                                  last edited by Morax

                                  @dukes said in Matchmaker Pool Feedback Thread:

                                  Hi, was playing 2v2 ladder and got the map Xellaria. The map is way too dark to play on and is really difficult to see the terrain changes. Also with fog of war and radar pings it basically blends into the background, When the game ended and put us into obvs view it was actually a lot brighter and easier to see. any chance it could be made to that light level permanently

                                  sorry, just seen the map is already being removed for next pool ect

                                  UPDATE: When was this map in the pool? I do not see it in any pool within the past few months??

                                  Just checked and yes: it is absolutely awful to look at the very dark textures... I will make a note to the team and reduce its aesthetic score until addressed so it does not show up again.

                                  Thank you for your report.

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                                  • Plasma_WolfP Offline
                                    Plasma_Wolf
                                    last edited by

                                    Just had a game on Moonlight swamps. Very dark texture, so it's impossible to see the height differences, and also that there's a lake in the middle. Checked the reclaim, which is imbalanced under water, and also not symmetrical on land.

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                                      snoog
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                                      How often is the maplist changed? I've noticed a lot of variety lately, including quite a few maps I've never even seen before like Adaptive Fate and Adaptive Sin. Also Salem Bay is pretty neat, wish that came up more.

                                      That said, I had a match on Re Requisite FAF Version and honestly wouldn't mind never seeing that map again. Way too much for a 4v4 and way too much empty space. Such a slow and boring map.

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                                      • Plasma_WolfP Offline
                                        Plasma_Wolf
                                        last edited by

                                        I thought the map list for 4v4 had 15x15 maps for the generated map? I just got a full-on 20x20 map (Corner spawns). Are there weird settings for the map generator? The map I got was on neroxis_map_generator_1.8.5_zsjc2pa7g4kpm_baia

                                        Coincidentally, I never want to see a 20x20 corner-to-corner map again 😞

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                                          HerpesHank
                                          last edited by HerpesHank

                                          i can attest to not being able to easily tell moonlight swamps had a lake in the center, i know its kind of in the name but it doesnt look like one.

                                          has there been any conversation about a veto system? i know there are maps in every pool that people dislike. cant avoid them forever but i think a properly implemented system would help mix up the variety a bit, especially in 4v4 where the <500 rating maps are more likely to be selected in the 0-1000 brackets.

                                          sidenote; i didnt see pina coladas in the june 4v4 map pool post, but when i logged in and looked at the map pool it was there. was kind of annoying when i was hoping that map would be pulled this month. im sure its a great map with plenty of options at higher ratings, but <1000 its nightmare.

                                          thank you to the matchmaking team, i deeply appreciate the efforts made into making this all work. been enjoying learning a game i never bothered to learn. just wish it was more populated so us americans didnt have to be up so early for some TMM games. looking forward to future adjustments.

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                                          • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                            FtXCommando
                                            last edited by FtXCommando

                                            Been conversations about vetos since 2014. Pina Coladas is trash at high level, I thought it was there for new players 4head.

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