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    What is going on with FAF?

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    • BlackYpsB Offline
      BlackYps
      last edited by

      We enabled the connection to our bought-in turn servers again yesterday evening, which should help alleviate the connection problems.
      They were disabled previously because we had to do some changes in our infrastructure to properly integrate them. With the server maintenance two days ago these got deployed, so we could enable them again.

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      • ? Offline
        A Former User
        last edited by

        How does the hacker know what to attack? SupCom is pier-to-pier. Can't players just connect to each other without your vulnerable nodes? Ignore me if I am talking nonsense.

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        • BlackYpsB Offline
          BlackYps
          last edited by

          Many people can, but those that can't establish a direct connection need to use relay servers. These relay servers are known to the attacker because they need to be broadcasted to every player in case they need them. If the attacker then floods these relay servers, the legit connections over these servers degrade and manifest as lag in the game.
          In a perfect world we wouldn't need these relay servers at all, but because the internet is a network of network it can be difficult to route through these network boundaries. People have all sorts of ways to connect to the internet. Through the physical cable in their house, their phone, starlink...

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            FireMyth
            last edited by

            why is someone so intent on taking down faf of all things?

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            • Brutus5000B Offline
              Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
              last edited by

              Because we banned them for misbehavior and this is the reaction.

              "Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
              – Benno Rice

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                A Former User
                last edited by

                It is getting worse.

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                  Reckless_Charger
                  last edited by

                  So is it known who the individual(s) performing ddos attacks are? Have they also set up their own faf servers or are they entirely different groups?

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                  • DeribusD Offline
                    Deribus Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    It is not

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                      VivalaRUS @Brutus5000
                      last edited by

                      @brutus5000 My point of view is that it's not just because of the ban. I think it's about the rottenness of people and the thirst for profit, I assume that they expect and hope that people will move from the faf to their created servers (and if you call a spade a spade, it's just a stolen idea of a "faf server"). And if people switch to them, then there will be donations. Such "people" will sell their Mother for money.... I do not see any other meaning of DDOS attacks (here a person loves the game and cannot play it, because there are technical failures, and "unexpectedly" there is an alternative, of course this player will go to play where there is an opportunity ...).I repeat, this is my personal opinion

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                        VivalaRUS
                        last edited by

                        For some, a faf server is just a competitor...

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                          A Former User
                          last edited by

                          I'd rather move to BAR than one of these servers while I wait for Sanctuary.

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                            snoog
                            last edited by snoog

                            I think I'm about ready for a break. Besides playing like absolute dogshit lately, the connection issues returned are just making the game nearly completely unenjoyable once again. I find myself spending more time in lobbys and incomplete games than actually playing these days.

                            For your enjoyment, not even sure wtf is happening here:
                            https://streamable.com/qr1mg6

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                              TankenAbard
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                              I haven't had any issues personally, though I'm in the US playing with others in the US, is this an international problem? I'm not seeing it.

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                              • SaverS Offline
                                Saver
                                last edited by

                                Unfortunately I had problems yesterday. After three tries we stopped it.

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                                  A Former User @TankenAbard
                                  last edited by

                                  @tankenabard Interesting. I am in Russia, and I have these problems. What if only relays close to Russia are under attack?

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                                    snoog @Guest
                                    last edited by

                                    @melanol said in What is going on with FAF?:

                                    @tankenabard Interesting. I am in Russia, and I have these problems. What if only relays close to Russia are under attack?

                                    Anecdotal experience, I feel like most of my issues are in games with Russians.

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                                      A Former User @snoog
                                      last edited by

                                      @snoog Because they happen to use these relays?

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                                        DonDraper
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                                        Game is fucking unplayable.

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                                        • Ctrl-KC Offline
                                          Ctrl-K
                                          last edited by

                                          @DonDraper Skill issue.

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                                            DonDraper
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                                            Oh really its a skill issue when

                                            1/5 of games lag so bad they end up with drops causing a desynch condition

                                            1/4 of games are DOA because someone disconnects on launch...

                                            1/2 of games are lagging so bad that someone drops in the first 10 minutes wrecking the experience for all or worse, refuses to leave when identified as the lagger and can't be voted out and the game drags on until they end up desynching.

                                            75% of games end up being a fucking RE for one of these reasons and there doesn't appear to be jack shit being done or able to be done because this community isn't innovating to fix it and we're all told if you wanna fix it, fix it yourself.

                                            Def skill issue.

                                            Meanwhile if this keeps up this will be the last year FAF is around because the playerbase wont grow or stick around.

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