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    • FearghalF Offline
      Fearghal
      last edited by Fearghal

      Post #3: Tournament Schedule + Structure

      Tournament - Will be played on 3 days:

      Saturday Feb 26th: 1-3 Matches or 2-9 games.
      Sunday Feb 27th: 2-3 Matches or 4-9 games
      And,
      Finals Date - tbd*: 1-2 Matches or 3-9 games
      *To be held consecutively on same day,
      decided upon by 3 team captains.
      .
      Follow the tournament on the Challonge website here:
      https://challonge.com/bb04n2q5
      .
      How the 3 Day Tournament will play:
      12 teams of 3, will compete in a double elimination format.
      All matches will be Bo3's except for....
      the Finals will be a Bo7, with winners bracket team starting the match 1-0.
      RCIV Tourn Bracket.jpg
      Screen capture above is the current RCIV Teams and their bracket positions.
      The small grey numbers to the left of each bracket are the Match numbers referenced in the Map pool.

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      • FearghalF Offline
        Fearghal
        last edited by Fearghal

        Post #4: Player Registration

        This is an Open Tournament.

        Players register as potential Captains or draftee's.

        Teams for this tournament will work through a Captain Pick process.
        Players will be seeded by their highest rating, regardless of global or ladder.

        The highest 12 rated players will become Captains.
        A Captain is given the right to draft "pick" a team,
        out of the registered players "draft pool" to play with during the tournament.

        The Captains themselves will also be seeded according to rating.
        Meaning the 12th Captain will have the lowest seed of all 12 Captains.
        However, this 12th Captain will have the right to -
        draft the 1st player during the Team Selection stage.
        The drafts then goes up sequentially from 11th Capt. to the 1st Captain.
        This procedure is repeated again for the 2nd player, from 12th Capt. to 1st Capt.
        .

        The Following players have registered:

        Untitled.png

        Captains ratings are taken from the day after the LoTS finals.
        (evening of Dec 20th, see screen shot below)

        Players registering for this tournament should find
        the higher of their 2 ratings in below screenshot, and enter it on this thread.
        (If your rating has gone up, you may submit the new higher rating for the draft,
        but new rating does not effect top 12 Captain seeding)

        Players Ratings.jpg

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        • FearghalF Offline
          Fearghal
          last edited by Fearghal

          Post #5: Game Map/Scenairo example

          How the game maps are released:
          Spacenet-AI positions are shown, with AI factions pre-selected,
          Closed spawn sites are shown,
          Any remaining spawns Not closed, are open for players.
          .

          Below is an example game map/scenario,

          Reset All options to default each game, and
          set the 3 tourny specific options (in green out line box).

          AI Cheat and Build multipliers will be from:
          a low of 1.0 (AI) to a high of 1.4x (AIx)

          -This example game map/scenario has Mixed AI's...
          with AIx in front/top spawns and Standard AI in the back/bottom spawn sites.

          00 Example.jpg
          That's it! .....Basically.... Just match the Game Lobby/Map Screen, easy peazy.

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          • FearghalF Offline
            Fearghal
            last edited by Fearghal

            Post #6: Map Pool and Finals Map selection process

            Map Pool:
            There will be 22 different maps for the Tournament.
            9 maps for Day #1
            9 maps for Day #2
            4 maps for Finals Day
            (Final 5 game maps of Finals will be
            chosen by captains from the above 22 maps).

            Each map will have an ID number, and is assigned to the
            'match and game' associated with
            the tournament bracket match number on Challonge.

            Bo3 matches will have:
            Games 1+3, on 10x10 maps, and
            Game 2's, on 20x20 maps.
            .

            Map Pool:
            10 x 10 maps:
            Adaptive Tournament Decision...........Matches: 1-3............................Game 1..............Map 1
            adaptive lonely island................................Matches: 1-3............................Game 3.............Map 3
            Canyon Mayhem...........................................Matches: 4-7 ..........................Game 1..............Map 4
            Adaptive Algun................................................Matches: 4-7..........................Game 3.............Map 6
            5vs5 Tabula Rasa .........................................Matches: 8-10 ........................Game 1..............Map 7
            Adaptive Flooded Tabual Rasa ..........Matches: 8-10 ........................Game 3.............Map 9
            Adaptive Regor Highlands......................Matches: 11-14.........................Game 1.............Map 10
            Adaptive Actavia Fixed Edition.............Matches: 11-14.........................Game 3............Map 12
            Adaptive Strongwyn....................................Matches: 15, 16, +18..............Game 1.............Map 13
            Plateau of Arracis..........................................Matches: 15, 16, +18..............Game 3............Map 15
            Adaptive Coiling Dragon River.............Match: 17.....................................Game 1.............Map 16
            Delta Ravine......................................................Match: 17.....................................Game 3............Map 18
            Adaptive Fields of Great Phoenix.......Match: 19......................................Game 1............Map 19
            Hyperion..............................................................Match: 19......................................Game 3...........Map 21

            20x20 maps:
            Adaptive Miridia.............................................Matches: 1-3..............................Game 2............Map 2
            Big Bang Dry.....................................................Matches: 4-7.............................Game 2............Map 5
            Air Wars 6v6......................................................Matches: 8-10............................Game 2............Map 8
            Adaptive Dual Italy.......................................Matches: 11-14..........................Game 2............Map 11
            Selkie Mirror.......................................................Matches: 15, 16, +18................Game 2............Map 14
            adaptive delta riva......................................Match: 17.......................................Game 2............Map 17
            Adaptive Selkie isle 5v5............................Match: 19.......................................Game 2............Map 20
            .
            .
            Round 1
            Matches 1-3 > Game 1
            Adaptive Tournament Decision

            01 Ad Tourn Decision.jpg
            .
            Round 1
            Matches 1-3 > Game 2
            Adaptive Miridia

            02 Ad Miridia.jpg
            .
            Round 1
            Matches 1-3 > Game 3
            adaptive lonely island

            03 ad lonely island.jpg
            .
            Round 2
            Matches 4-7 > Game 1
            Canyon Mayhem

            04 Canyon Mayhem.jpg
            .
            Round 2
            Matches 4-7 > Game 2
            Big Bang Dry

            05 Big Bang.jpg
            .
            Round 2
            Matches 4-7 > Game 3
            Adaptive Algun

            06 Ad Algun.jpg
            .
            Losers Round 1
            Matches 8-10 > Game 1
            5vs5 Tabula Rasa

            07 5vs5 Tabula Rasa.jpg
            .
            Losers Round 1
            Matches 8-10 > Game 2
            Air Wars 6v6

            08 Air Wars 6v6.jpg
            .
            Losers Round 1
            Matches 8-10 > Game 3
            Adaptive Flooded Tabula Rasa

            09 Flooded Tabula Rasa.jpg
            .
            Round 3 and Losers Round 2
            Matches 11-14 > Game 1
            Adaptive Regor Highlands

            10 Ad Regor Highlands.jpg
            .
            Round 3 and Losers Round 2
            Matches 11-14 > Game 2
            Adaptive Dual Italy

            11 Ad  Dual Italy.jpg
            .
            Round 3 and Losers Round 2
            Matches 11-14 > Game 3
            Adaptive Actavia Fixed Edition

            12 Ad Actavia Fixed Edition.jpg
            .
            Round 4 and Losers Round 3
            Matches 15, 16 + 18 > Game 1
            Adaptive Strongwyn

            13 Ad Strongwyn.jpg
            .
            Round 4 and Losers Round 3
            Matches 15, 16 + 18 > Game 2
            Selkie Mirror

            14 Selkie Mirror.jpg
            .
            Round 4 and Losers Round 3
            Matches 15, 16 + 18 > Game 3
            Plateau of Arracis

            15 Plateau of Arracis.jpg
            .
            Losers Round 4
            Match 17 > Game 1
            Adaptive Coiling Dragon River

            16 Ad Coiling Dragon River.jpg
            .
            Losers Round 4
            Match 17 > Game 2
            adaptive delta riva

            17 ad delta riva.jpg
            .
            Losers Round 4
            Match 17 > Game 3
            Delta Ravine

            18 Delta Ravine.jpg
            .
            Semi Finals
            Match 19 > Game 1
            Adaptive Fields of Great Phoenix

            19 Ad Flds of Grt Pheonix.jpg
            .
            Semi Finals
            Match 19 > Game 2
            Adaptive Selkie Isle 5v5

            20 Ad Selkie Isle 5v5.jpg
            .
            Semi Finals
            Match 19 > Game 3
            Hyperion

            21 Hyperion.jpg
            .

            Finals
            Match 20 > Game 1
            Dark Liver Mirrored
            22 Dark Liver Mirrored.jpg
            .
            Finals
            Match 20 > Games 2-6
            Games 2-6 maps will be chosen by the Captains as follows:
            Each Captain will send list of 8 map ID #'s, from the map pool to veto.
            The remaining maps will be vetoed 1 at a time until 5 maps remain.

            !roll to see which side choses first map to play.
            Alternate map picks to play thereafter.

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            • FearghalF Offline
              Fearghal
              last edited by Fearghal

              Post #7: AI Developers Acknowledgement

              Special Thanks To Our wonderful AI-Developement community:
              Uveso, Relentor, Softles & Chp2001 (AI participating Devs)
              Plus- Azraeel, Sprouto, !MarLo, Jip, Dragun101, Balthazar, Swkoll &
              All the others who contribute and play test.
              Their teams and the AI mods ARE what made this tournament possible,
              and practicing so much more fun and challenging!

              AI's included in RCIV

              AI-Uveso: -- ( 3 sub AI's)
              AI: Uveso Adaptive: -------- Balanced AI.
              AI: Uveso Rush: ------------T1, T2 and T3 unit spam
              AI: Uveso Experimentals:---- Focuses on experimentals.

              RNGAI: -- (2 Sub AI's)
              AI: RNG Standard ----------Balanced All around Excellent AI
              AI: RNG Standard Air -------Tech AI

              AI: DilliDalli:-- (1 AI)
              AI: DilliDalli ----------------1 v 1 specialist

              .

              To learn more about AI-Uveso, read Uveso info here:
              https://forum.faforever.com/topic/350/ai-uveso-v88-ai-mod-for-faforever

              To learn more about RNGAI, read relent0r info here:
              https://forums.faforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=19149

              To learn more about DilliDalli, read Softles forum page here:
              https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2008/dillidalli-1v1-specialist-ai
              .

              Also Thanks to our players.
              Having skilled players play vs the AI,
              helps our AI Developers observe and improve their AI's.
              ..our casters who provide great entertainment to us viewers, and
              give great exposure to the different AI mods, and
              ..our promotors who worked very hard on promoting this tourny and
              got this forum 20x's the number of views as last year 🙂

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              • FearghalF Offline
                Fearghal
                last edited by Fearghal

                Post #8: Prelude to Spacenet Galactic War

                The year 1997 - A Match that changed History.
                Garry Kasparov Vs IBM's Deep Blue chess computer:
                In 1996 - 1st Match - Kasparov wins (4-2)
                This was the first computer program to defeat a world champion in a classical 'game'.
                In the 1997 Rematch, Big Blue wins (3 1/2 - 2 1/2)
                This was the first computer program to defeat a world champion in a regulation 'match'.

                The year 2029.
                A cyborg assassin is sent back in time by Skynet corporation to assassinate Sarah Connor,
                whose unborn son (John Connor) will one day lead a resistance and save mankind.

                Today: Skynets successor - Spacenet,
                has spread a computer virus among a large portion of the galaxies battlebots.
                The virus causes the battlebots to switch their "friend or foe" signature to ally with
                Spacenet's already formidable armies.

                Therefore... with this imminent threat upon us,
                it is necessary to call all brave soldiers,
                to come forward, enlist and save our galaxy from an
                evil corporation along with our eternal enemies!

                We must deal with this new threat, and we must do it smartly.
                Spacenet is also at war with our eternal enemies.
                Whenever there are 3 armies on one outpost...
                You must battle like FFA fighters.

                We are looking for Commanders with:
                the Brains and Cunning of a Garry Kasparov, and
                the Leadership and Bravery of a John Connor, to
                come forward, suit up and help defeat Spacenet.
                (Armies are forming and battles are expected to commence at ANY time!)

                Incentives - Besides saving the Galaxy, and the eternal gratitude of Trillions...
                Will be payouts totaling $1,200 to the top 3 teams,
                and a hard fought for, campaign battle ribbon
                RCIV Champion.png

                .

                Sign up below now, so you don't miss any Action!

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                  sign up
                  Neytron 1800global 1500ladder

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                  • FtXCommandoF Offline
                    FtXCommando
                    last edited by FtXCommando

                    Issue is that the last 3 teams that are given free slots were built on the captain seeding of the last tournament which is a statement on the strength of the signups of that tournament. It is entirely possible that those teams represent significantly stronger teams that what this tournament seeding will create or something significantly weaker depending entirely on who decides to play. This also doesn't take into account players from the last captain picking process improving ie LimeZ was on the winning team last year and increased about 250 rating or so.

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                      Neytron @FtXCommando
                      last edited by Neytron

                      @ftxcommando
                      not only, even player instead of 1600 became 2000 in the ladder

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                      • FemboyF Offline
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                        Signing up Femboy 1400 global 1300 ladder!

                        Also @Fearghal Would you be okay if the FAF promotions team made some marketing material for the tournament? Nothing crazy but like maybe a logo, some overlays for FAFLive with rainbow colors and so on lol

                        FAF Website Developer

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                          Fearghal @FtXCommando
                          last edited by Fearghal

                          @ftxcommando
                          That's all True,

                          After further consideration, the invitations have been revoked.

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                          • FearghalF Offline
                            Fearghal @Femboy
                            last edited by Fearghal

                            @femboy
                            I would Love the marketing help!
                            I know the Promotions team is taking a well deserved vacation.
                            Registration for this tourny ends midnight Sunday Feb 6th.
                            So we have a very nice time period to work with.

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                            • FemboyF Offline
                              Femboy Promotions team @Fearghal
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                              @fearghal Perfect! I will be making a new forum post titles "Rainbow Cup IV - Promotional Material" soon so we can get feedback from other people (and to keep this post clean for the signups)

                              FAF Website Developer

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                              • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                FtXCommando @Fearghal
                                last edited by FtXCommando

                                @fearghal said in Rainbow Cup IV ~ 3 v 3 ~ $1.2K:

                                @ftxcommando
                                Even though some players ratings have changed,
                                I don't think any of the Invited teams are too strong.

                                The team that won (bully/arch/lime) would be 5800 rated which would put them at the highest rating tier in the old tournament (filled with lopsided teams that have 2300 or 2400s) with that rating divided between 3 people that are high enough in rating to be captains in the last tournament.

                                I don't think you're proving that you won by luck by basically being able to ignore the captain process which is intended to make things as fair play as possible for a teamgame tournament. Rather you're proving that you might only be able to win due to luck in this tournament because you got to ignore all the fair play restrictions put upon everybody else.

                                This is also besides the theoretical assumption that the team gets the edge because they have proven they work well together by winning the past tournament while all other teams do not have that advantage. I don't think that actually applies in this case but it still throws a wrench in the narrative that this is about a team "proving" themselves. If it's about proving themselves then you can just get rid of the whole captain process and let people sign up as a synergistic team. Mixing the two systems doesn't make any sense.

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                                  Fearghal @FtXCommando
                                  last edited by Fearghal

                                  @ftxcommando
                                  The invitations have been withdrawn.

                                  The draft system worked pretty good last year, as
                                  the 11th seeded team came in 1st
                                  the 1st seeded came in 2nd and
                                  the 4th seeded came in 3rd.
                                  That's a good mix.

                                  Lets see what happens........
                                  I predict 12 well balanced teams like last year.

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                                    NoOneCares - 1800 global signing up

                                    Ras Boi's save lives.

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                                      @fearghal haha fun

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                                        i sign up

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                                          Coming to party - 1915(ladder / global)

                                          The embodiment of depression...

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                                            I'm in! 1600± global, 1100 ladder

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