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    • ValkiV Offline
      Valki @arma473
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      @arma473 lf that is not banabable, l think l will start doing that...

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      • arma473A Offline
        arma473 @archsimkat
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        @archsimkat said in Decrease air unit HP:

        Just here to point out that this also has the consequence of making flaks and other AA with splash damage far less effective vs units in transports, and making air to ground far more effective when it accidentally splashes against air. The latter effect is likely undesirable - imagine a Czar with 7k hp dying to the splash from 3 strat bombers impacting on inties.

        It's a good point.

        One specific thing you mention, strat bombs exploding because they touch enemy ASF, that doesn't happen any more, since a balance patch in the last year or so.

        But this would especially affect t1 anti-air against transports because of the lack of splash damage. Interceptors already sometimes shoot engies instead of aeon transports. It would become even harder to shoot down an aeon transport. Maybe make t1 AA not collide with land units? So the shots would pass through to hit the transport? And consider doing the same thing for SAMs?

        As far as flaks being less able to kill land units clinging to transports, I don't know if that would be a bad change. It would change the balance a bit, but not necessarily in a bad way.

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        • arma473A Offline
          arma473 @Valki
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          @valki It's not bannable to put units near your ACU when you're trying to run away xD you might have to put the inties on hold fire so they don't jump up and chase after an enemy interceptor

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          • archsimkatA Offline
            archsimkat
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            One specific thing you mention, strat bombs exploding because they touch enemy ASF, that doesn't happen any more, since a balance patch in the last year or so.

            Yeah, that's why I specifically said a strat bombing an intie. Strats can still bomb every other air units except ASF afaik.

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            • arma473A Offline
              arma473 @archsimkat
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              @archsimkat They need to fix that, then. There's no reason you should be able to try to block strat bombs with inties, or swift winds, or t1 bombers, or t1 transports, etc.

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              • TheWeakieT Offline
                TheWeakie Balance Team
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                Sounds to me that t1 land deals as quick with t3 air as t1 air deals with t3 land

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                • Dragun101D Offline
                  Dragun101
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                  For what it matters in Supcom Vanilla what Kale is saying was true.

                  I’m a shitty 1k Global. Any balance or gameplay suggestions should be understood or taken as such.

                  Project Head and current Owner/Manager of SCTA Project

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                  • FtXCommandoF Offline
                    FtXCommando
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                    “there’s no reason” it’s called simulated projectiles and one of the defining unique things about the game.

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                      Aulex @FtXCommando
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                      @ftxcommando said in Decrease air unit HP:

                      “there’s no reason” it’s called simulated projectiles and one of the defining unique things about the game.

                      I remember epicly blocking a nuke with a czar to save my ACU because my anti near it wasn't loaded. If I couldn't do that well then this game would be dead to me.

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                      • BlackJaguarB Offline
                        BlackJaguar
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                        Please, look at Supreme Commander original Vanilla and 4th Dimension Mod, that already had similar aproach.

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                        • veteranasheV Offline
                          veteranashe
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                          You also have to think of T1 arty shooting down air units, it happens a lot with unties now, might happen with asf a bit

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                          • KaletheQuickK Offline
                            KaletheQuick @veteranashe
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                            @veteranashe TBH that seems fine to me. I don't think ASF fly low enough for that to be a common problem. And T1 Arty should be able to shred through landed ASF, just like how some guys with Tommy guns in a Jeep can take down the Luftwaffe.

                            You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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