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    • SpikeyNoobS Offline
      SpikeyNoob Global Moderator
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      Maybe the shared armys mod.

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      • JipJ Offline
        Jip
        last edited by Jip

        I'd like to submit Rainmakers, but I'm not sure if it is casual enough
        edit: it is 30 mins tops on default settings

        A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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        • ThomasHiattT Offline
          ThomasHiatt
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          I'd think that new/casual players probably have no idea what all these weird mods and game modes are and would stay away from the queue.

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          • ValkiV Offline
            Valki @ThomasHiatt
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            @ludmilla said in Suggestions for a Casual/Party game queue:

            I'd think that new/casual players probably have no idea what all these weird mods and game modes are and would stay away from the queue.

            Hidden rating helps a lot for them though.

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            • SpikeyNoobS Offline
              SpikeyNoob Global Moderator @Valki
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              @valki it would also lead better players not to cue cus imagine u are a 1800 playing phantom with a bunch of 300s. Would that even be fun? Either its no fun for u or no fun for the 300s.

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              • maudlin27M Offline
                maudlin27
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                Provided whatever game mode had a spotlight in the news which explained what it was and how to play it, it could encourage new players to try it out. For example, I've never played a phantom game (and have only seen a couple of casts of phantom games) so I'm put off joining one as I'd be relatively clueless and probably face alot of anger from the players when I play badly. Similarly I won't even consider various other mods since I've little idea of what they do.

                I expect it would in part come down to how it's marketed/pitched - if it's promoted as something for new players, to let them experience different types of game modes in a non-competitive setting, with experienced players encouraged to be helpful and play for fun, I suspect new players would be more likely to queue into it.

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                • arma473A Offline
                  arma473 @SpikeyNoob
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                  @spikeynoob People would just tab out of the game to look up the other players in Aeolus to find out their relevant ratings

                  The same thing people did in TMM when the TMM rating was disconnected from player skill (e.g. when I was reset to "zero" and the same thing for Jagged and lots of others)

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                  • veteranasheV Offline
                    veteranashe
                    last edited by

                    Love it can't wait.

                    Might add a checkmark of "I'm new" so "new" can show as their score In game so other players can help the new players.

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                    • veteranasheV Offline
                      veteranashe
                      last edited by

                      Love it can't wait.

                      Might add a checkmark of "I'm new" so "new" can show as their score In game so other players can help the new players.

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                      • SpikeyNoobS Offline
                        SpikeyNoob Global Moderator @arma473
                        last edited by

                        @arma473 i agree, i was speaking to what might happen if rating is not shown. Sorry for not making that clear.

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                        • SpikeyNoobS Offline
                          SpikeyNoob Global Moderator
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                          Also i remember when i first got faf i saw the chess mod. It seemed pretty cool and might make for some fun shorter games.

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                          • A Offline
                            Aulex
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                            This is a great idea Biass. I think it could be taken in a different direction to solve a different problem of keeping the game fresh, we could have a rotating game mode per week. It would be similar to hearthstone's tavern brawls. Obviously can't implement a new game mode every week, but it could cycle through a large enough list to keep things fresh.
                            Just food for though.

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                            • SpikeyNoobS Offline
                              SpikeyNoob Global Moderator @Aulex
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                              @aulex yea that would be fun. It would also solve the issue with not knowing how long a game will be.

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                              • UvesoU Offline
                                Uveso
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                                just a thought:

                                We could implement new end goals to the game like:

                                Most score or mex output after 30 minutes wins.
                                Kill all enemy factories to win
                                1st who builds an experimental wins. (excluding monkey lord)

                                End game conditions based on unit count is easy to implement.
                                Sadly i don't play pvp so i don't have any good ideas.

                                Obviously i would like to see some player vs. AI games
                                Or every player can choose his favorite AI (mod) as allied player. πŸ˜„

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                                • TerminalT Offline
                                  Terminal @Aulex
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                                  @aulex I was thinking the same thing. League of legends also does something similar to this where they have a few rotating game modes throughout the year. It keeps the game fresh and those game mode usually get more play then game itself when they available. Maybe have something like a phantom x week, murder party week, or any other game mode week once a month. Perhaps some type of reward could be added at the end of every rotating game mode week to keep players wanting to play said game mode. This being an avatar or something for most wins or something.

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                                  • veteranasheV Offline
                                    veteranashe
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                                    Crazy rush needs to be in there too

                                    Could do when you queue you can add vote for game modes like "30 min game" or perhaps vote for what type of game

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                                    • AskaholicA Offline
                                      Askaholic
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                                      We’re gonna have to figure out some way to opt out of the longer games since not everyone is gonna be down for a 1.5 hour phantom.

                                      I liked the idea of FFA on asymmetric map gen which Sheikah demonstrated a while ago. It would be awesome if LabWars worked too. Afaik it’s kinda busted.

                                      Maybe something with unit restrictions or resource income mods. Like "navy only and everyone gets 2x resources". Or maybe infinite resources. Some game modes like that which simplify the game could be casual fun while also maybe helping people learn certain other aspects of the game I.e. how to spend mass other than clicking next upgrades.

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                                        Tagada Balance Team
                                        last edited by Tagada

                                        I remember a starting condition in FA where everyone spawned with a set of units and no engies nor an Acu The units were all you've got and you needed to micro them well to win.

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                                        • JipJ Offline
                                          Jip @Tagada
                                          last edited by Jip

                                          @tagada It is called Chess πŸ™‚

                                          There is also a mod where you have a fixed income - that may be interesting too for this queue

                                          A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                                          • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                            FtXCommando
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                                            Phantom is just not an option when you cannot control for the cpus of players. Games will get SUPER laggy when you get a new player that has a cpu from 2002.

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