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    • MazorNoobM Offline
      MazorNoob @FunkOff
      last edited by MazorNoob

      T2 land is the worst

      In what world is it the worst when it has hover T2 shields, hover T2 flak, obsidians that were steadily buffed to be great and blazes that were steadily buffed to be good?

      T3 land is also the worst

      In what world is it the worst when it has Harbingers, sniper bots and the only T3 arty that can fire on the move and shieldless Cybran T3 land exists?

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      • FtXCommandoF Offline
        FtXCommando
        last edited by

        guys my aeon win rate is also low that’s so crazy

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        • Sladow-NoobS Offline
          Sladow-Noob @TheCrimsonKnight
          last edited by

          @thecrimsonknight excuse me but my first comment was actually meant to explain what I meant!

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            A Former User @MazorNoob
            last edited by

            @mazornoob said in I am abandoning Aeon:

            hover

            Hover anything matters only when there is water present on the map and its strength is based on how much water is present. Not a lot of water in 1v1

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            • MazorNoobM Offline
              MazorNoob
              last edited by

              Sure. Now tell me how Aeon T2 land is weaker than Cybran when blazes + shields counter hoplites, obsidians counter rhinos and ACU vision counters stealth.

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              • FtXCommandoF Offline
                FtXCommando
                last edited by

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                buff aeon bros…. they aren’t top 2 in everything….

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                  Tomma
                  last edited by

                  Nooooooo they are only nerfing aeon nooooooo how could they do it to my beloved faction

                  Skill issue

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                  • FtXCommandoF Offline
                    FtXCommando
                    last edited by

                    Funny part is the only section in land Aeon is 4th in, they were 2nd or best in when they had their insane OP ACU

                    Aeon enjoyers when they have no autowin condition from min 0-40

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                    • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                      Sladow-Noob
                      last edited by

                      Questions regarding the image you sent:
                      why uef t1 land > sera and why aeon t1 land > uef
                      what's "late t1 air" since it should be the same as early t1 air?

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                      • FtXCommandoF Offline
                        FtXCommando
                        last edited by FtXCommando

                        uef’s better (having a) lab gives more flexibility in early t1 stage since thaam and striker differences are quite marginal in the grand scheme of things. You won’t push 3 thaams into 3 strikers aggressively. But thaam + zthuee + sera ACU are stronger on late t1.

                        Aeon early t1 flare is op as is spirit, to the point they can deal with tank groups smaller than 4 using just those units. Which is basically what I define as early t1 stage.

                        Early t1 is stuff like first bomber mostly and killing expansion engies, late t1 is when you have the capacity to scout aggression before it happens, so like 8-10 ints roughly with some radars/scout planes existing.

                        Late t1 strength is mainly governed by t1 arty drops since IMO most bombers are equally decent at cancer attack moving around the map/killing pgens and in early t1 sera and aeon are strictly superior in killing engies with sera having the better 1st bomber for it.

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                        • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                          Sladow-Noob
                          last edited by

                          oh yeah, true.. labs exist :imfine: was thinking about like <30 tanks early on and later stage being 100+ where aeon clearly sucks due to clumping together.

                          air also makes sense ig even though I personally would ignore splitting it into dif. parts. But tbf it makes the whole table look nicer

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                          • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                            Sladow-Noob
                            last edited by

                            also a random thing, weren't cybran BS less expensive than the other ones making them better than seraphim / aeon?

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                            • FtXCommandoF Offline
                              FtXCommando
                              last edited by

                              Cyb BS has a projectile as slow as UEF, Aeon wins 1v1 assuming some base competency of micro.

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                              • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                                Sladow-Noob
                                last edited by

                                that's why, gotcha

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                                • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                  FtXCommando
                                  last edited by

                                  Reminds me that sera has a critical weakness of not having a lab for their t1 engie drops and I also didn’t really account for ghettos, both of those would result in a net buff of Aeon t1 air lol

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                                    FunkOff @MazorNoob
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                                    @mazornoob The obsidian is the worst T2 tank because it's expensive, but also slow and has short range. The harbinger is also the worst T3 bot. It's the best against T1 units, but the worst against other T3 bots/Othuums. Sniper bots are not very good, generally, because their HP sucks ass and it's very easy to kill them with bombers are gunships, even just 2 T1 bombers will one-pass them. Trust me on this, I kill them all the time. The factions with the heavy bots - Percival and Brick - do not have this problem, and they do not require mobile shields and careful attention to manage. Also, because Aeon only has T2 mobile shield to protect the sniper - Seraphim at least has the T3 mobile shield - their land is therefore the worst at this stage. \

                                    I like Aeon because of their good air.... but their land suks

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                                    • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                                      Sladow-Noob @FunkOff
                                      last edited by

                                      @funkoff said in I am abandoning Aeon:

                                      Trust me on this, I kill them all the time.

                                      What a coincidence that saying "sniperbots suck cuz you can easily kill them" is completely wrong and I never ever saw you in any somewhat high rated lobby where ppl actually know how to use and protect sniperbots.
                                      Also Cybran having no shields is literally the reason they autoloose against sniperbots.

                                      Not even going to argue about the rest cuz what you said is just wrong on so many levels.

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                                        FunkOff @Sladow-Noob
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                                        @sladow-noob You seem to be implying that "well higher rated players than you know how to use them properly, therefore they are not bad". That agrees with what I said: The sniper bots have a huge weakness that requires skill and attention to mitigate. The other bots don't have this.

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                                        • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                                          Sladow-Noob
                                          last edited by

                                          damn I didn't know you need actual skill for a game like FAF! What's next, ACU being too weak cuz some random t2 bombers can just snipe it while pushing?
                                          But fr, this game isn't balanced around the <1500 players who need autowin units in order to think a faction is good. And don't start the discussion with "Faf elite RUINING the game" cuz that convo can be found like 100 times on the forums and discord.

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                                            FunkOff @Sladow-Noob
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                                            @sladow-noob You are very argumentative, lol. It is possible for all fourof the following things to be true: 1- Sniper bots are bad because they have very low HP and are very slow. 2- Aeon T3 land is bad because it depends on sniper bots. 3- There are ways to mitigate these weaknesses. 4- Sladow is very argumentative and likes to write angry posts online

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