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    • Sladow-NoobS Offline
      Sladow-Noob
      last edited by Sladow-Noob

      Aeon:
      Autowin t1 on some land maps, strongest t2 phase, strong(est) t3 phase, decent exps, best t2 air, best midgame ACU, best frig, second best or best navy.

      Just because ppl are not able to use certain factions or units (e.g. sniperbots) doesn't mean they're unbalanced. Check the megathread-statistic post and see how often Aeon got veto'd in 1v1 pro tourney and how often they got picked if there were no vetos. Notice something?

      Inactive.

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      • Sladow-NoobS Offline
        Sladow-Noob
        last edited by Sladow-Noob

        Or just look at the screenshot:
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        • FtXCommandoF Offline
          FtXCommando
          last edited by

          so true bestie

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          • GrimplexG Offline
            Grimplex
            last edited by

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            The embodiment of depression...

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            • TheVVheelboyT Offline
              TheVVheelboy
              last edited by

              Dude plays other factions in low elo where he stagnated. Discovers Aeon and skyrockets to 1300 rating where then he hits his skill ceiling for this OP broken faction. Well, turns out a faction can carry you only that high.

              And then when the balance team finally begins the aeon adjustments we can see him immediately cry for he is about to lose 200 rating points for his broken cheese faction finally got brought down a little bit down to the level of others...

              Yep, everything checks out.

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              • TheCrimsonKnightT Offline
                TheCrimsonKnight
                last edited by

                like I get it that you guys probably get a lot of crying from players but you didn't need to do him like that LOL

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                • Sylph_S Offline
                  Sylph_ @Guest
                  last edited by Sylph_

                  @melanol I play random, NOT aeon, so expect a different perspective here.
                  That being said, since the gun changes, I've found that I get my best results from aeon by upgrading the fire rate on the commander first, not range.
                  After getting firerate, I can use the range of auroras to push into enemy formations / ACUs, and if they try to close so that their non-aeon T1 units can fight back, they get an early upgraded-commander smashing them up for their troubles.

                  I know it's in no way a fix for all the potential problems of the race, and while playing random aeon IS my least successful race, so I aren't contesting the opinions of far better players than myself... But I'm just stating what seems to work best for me!

                  They definitely feel like they work harder for the same results at a low skill level.
                  I can see the problem in balancing such a faction (if expert-microed aeon were better than the others, then all pros would play aeon), but there's a balance to be established, and I'd love to see faction win rates across different league levels (bronze, silver, gold, platinum, master) that ONLY reflects the most recent patch.
                  From what I see of the statistics megathread, only 1 pro does best with aeon, and I'm uncertain which patches it reflects.

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                  • angelofd347hA Offline
                    angelofd347h Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Lets look more realisitcally at our win rates since the last balance patch:

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                    Time to buff cybran and sera, nerf the UEF

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                    • ? Offline
                      A Former User @angelofd347h
                      last edited by

                      @angelofd347h Looks like I will be playing UEF from now on

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                      • F Offline
                        FunkOff
                        last edited by

                        I agree that Aeon kinda sucks. I disagree with Sladow on some strengths. Aeon has the worst ACU now that Cybran has nano and sniper comm was nerfed. T2 land is the worst, T3 land is also the worst, although the GC is probably the best land XP, so that does help mitigate the land problems a lot.

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                        • MazorNoobM Offline
                          MazorNoob @FunkOff
                          last edited by MazorNoob

                          T2 land is the worst

                          In what world is it the worst when it has hover T2 shields, hover T2 flak, obsidians that were steadily buffed to be great and blazes that were steadily buffed to be good?

                          T3 land is also the worst

                          In what world is it the worst when it has Harbingers, sniper bots and the only T3 arty that can fire on the move and shieldless Cybran T3 land exists?

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                          • FtXCommandoF Offline
                            FtXCommando
                            last edited by

                            guys my aeon win rate is also low that’s so crazy

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                            • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                              Sladow-Noob @TheCrimsonKnight
                              last edited by

                              @thecrimsonknight excuse me but my first comment was actually meant to explain what I meant!

                              Inactive.

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                              • ? Offline
                                A Former User @MazorNoob
                                last edited by

                                @mazornoob said in I am abandoning Aeon:

                                hover

                                Hover anything matters only when there is water present on the map and its strength is based on how much water is present. Not a lot of water in 1v1

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                                • MazorNoobM Offline
                                  MazorNoob
                                  last edited by

                                  Sure. Now tell me how Aeon T2 land is weaker than Cybran when blazes + shields counter hoplites, obsidians counter rhinos and ACU vision counters stealth.

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                                  • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                    FtXCommando
                                    last edited by

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                                    buff aeon bros…. they aren’t top 2 in everything….

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                                    • T Offline
                                      Tomma
                                      last edited by

                                      Nooooooo they are only nerfing aeon nooooooo how could they do it to my beloved faction

                                      Skill issue

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                                      • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                        FtXCommando
                                        last edited by

                                        Funny part is the only section in land Aeon is 4th in, they were 2nd or best in when they had their insane OP ACU

                                        Aeon enjoyers when they have no autowin condition from min 0-40

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                                        • Sladow-NoobS Offline
                                          Sladow-Noob
                                          last edited by

                                          Questions regarding the image you sent:
                                          why uef t1 land > sera and why aeon t1 land > uef
                                          what's "late t1 air" since it should be the same as early t1 air?

                                          Inactive.

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                                          • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                            FtXCommando
                                            last edited by FtXCommando

                                            uef’s better (having a) lab gives more flexibility in early t1 stage since thaam and striker differences are quite marginal in the grand scheme of things. You won’t push 3 thaams into 3 strikers aggressively. But thaam + zthuee + sera ACU are stronger on late t1.

                                            Aeon early t1 flare is op as is spirit, to the point they can deal with tank groups smaller than 4 using just those units. Which is basically what I define as early t1 stage.

                                            Early t1 is stuff like first bomber mostly and killing expansion engies, late t1 is when you have the capacity to scout aggression before it happens, so like 8-10 ints roughly with some radars/scout planes existing.

                                            Late t1 strength is mainly governed by t1 arty drops since IMO most bombers are equally decent at cancer attack moving around the map/killing pgens and in early t1 sera and aeon are strictly superior in killing engies with sera having the better 1st bomber for it.

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