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    • FtXCommandoF Offline
      FtXCommando
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      Play dual gap as a 4v4 and these problems halve themselves or more.

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        Defiant
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        Is there 3rd party infrastructure or hosting we could use to reduce DDOS?

        A web service is not the same as FAF, but maybe the same practice of using a WAF could be used.
        Could we pay to host servers on cloudfare or similar?
        Could we increase the number of servers to reduce DDOS?
        Could we ride on some other network layer which has protections?

        Please don't feel anyone should answer these directly, they are more rhetroical, uninformed ideas. My point is if we can solve this by using other available technologies.

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        • Brutus5000B Offline
          Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin @Defiant
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          @defiant said in What is going on with FAF?:

          Is there 3rd party infrastructure or hosting we could use to reduce DDOS?

          This is what we added when we introduced the "global" coturn.
          But it doesn't seem to have the resounding effect we were hoping for.

          "Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
          – Benno Rice

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          • MostLostNoobM Offline
            MostLostNoob @Brutus5000
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            @brutus5000 said in What is going on with FAF?:

            This is what we added when we introduced the "global" coturn.
            But it doesn't seem to have the resounding effect we were hoping for.

            Could the issue with the Global Coturn server be that the other Coturn servers (Germany 1, Finland, US East & any others that I just can't see) are still online & selectable in the client, so not everybody is using only the Global Coturn which would result in the evaluation of the performance of using that 3rd party provider solution not being measured accurately?

            Should all Coturn servers except the Global one be shutdown while the DDOS attacks are still ongoing so that only the Global one with the added protection can be used?

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              Sheikah
              last edited by Sheikah

              We did try that for a bit but the bandwidth costs started to explode in unexpected ways so we turned the others back on.

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              • MostLostNoobM Offline
                MostLostNoob
                last edited by MostLostNoob

                šŸ˜ž

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                  DonDraper
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                  CALL THE FBI AND REPORT THE DDOS. GET SOME FUCKING HELP FROM MICROSOFT. DO FUCKING SOMETHING!

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                    Supernova16 @DonDraper
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                    @dondraper My man, it looks like they are doings things, it just hasn't worked out quite like they wanted it to.

                    What exactly do you expect the FBI or Microsoft to do for DDoS attacks against a game like this? I love FAF, but it's not like its critical infrastructure. I'm sure they're doing their best with the tools and resources at their disposal.

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                      Reckless_Charger
                      last edited by Reckless_Charger

                      Umm I'm sure FBI has better things to do than combating DDOS attacks on ancient multiplayer game (played by a couple of thousand people at best) based in foreign (non-US) country being attacked by actors likely from another foreign country.

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                        DonDraper @Supernova16
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                        @supernova16 What it looks like is its been 9-12 months of the SSDD approach. Why not try rolling back to a build from 2 years ago. Why not try scrapping the connection system taht crutches some players who cant see each other?

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                        • BlackYpsB Offline
                          BlackYps
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                          Scrapping the Internet? That's a bold suggestion

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                            A Former User
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                            Well, I am officially tired of disconnects and moving to other games

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                              StormLantern Team Lead @DonDraper
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                              @dondraper

                              What have you done to help, mr. angry man?

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                                Reckless_Charger
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                                Don't you know shouting at people gets things done...

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                                  DonDraper @StormLantern
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                                  @stormlantern Better to be angry and see a solution eventually than pensive and putting up with this horseshit for the better part of the year since I was banned a good SIX FUCKING MONTHS came back and the situation is worse than it was. So please blame it on me.

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                                    StormLantern Team Lead
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                                    But you also "put up with it", like the rest of us. So you are angry+put up with it. I don't think that is much better, no.

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                                      IAmCupCakes
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                                      Im very happy that you guys are trying so hard to fix these connection issues.
                                      But im also very sad that this is the current situation that we are facing.

                                      And so im a little bit of a sad panda, who just uses faf to relax and unwind.

                                      But please, remember that even though some people dont express their frustration in helpful ways, there are also people, who just love this game and are absolutely awestruck at the dedication you guys put into this community... Thank you for continuing to try to fix this. I hope you find the perfect solution šŸ™‚

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                                        Dorset
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                                        Despite all this bullshit FAF is still worth the trouble and I will play it no matter the trouble. I am sure Sanctuary will be great but I highly doubt it will capture my attention the way FAF has and my hope is that FAF is around for another 20 years. I hope others choose to fight through the pain too rather than move to a different game. After reading this whole thread I think the best thing to do is donate to FAF rather than quit.

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                                          IAmCupCakes @Dorset
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                                          @dorset Good point! I will do that šŸ™‚

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                                          • Brutus5000B Offline
                                            Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
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                                            Please guys. If you want to donate for the cause of FAF that is fine. But don't donate and expect and problems to be resolved in return. This is not something we can guarantee.

                                            "Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
                                            – Benno Rice

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