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    • TheWeakieT Offline
      TheWeakie Balance Team
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      • arma473A Offline
        arma473
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        Veterancy was added to the game in order to discourage people from spamming t1 units

        It has no proper purpose now

        Remove all veterancy bonuses for all units except ACU please. And remove ACU hp gain for veterancy. ACU should get additional max hp but it's current HP value should stay the same. For an ACU that is in a fight, it would only get a little bit more regen rate. So getting a level of veterancy wouldn't completely change a fight situation.

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        • FtXCommandoF Offline
          FtXCommando
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          just remove gun upgrade from acus while ur at it

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          • maudlin27M Offline
            maudlin27
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            Veterancy adds greater depth and makes games more interesting. There have been plenty of entertaining moments both in games and watching casts where for example an ACU is about to die and gets a sudden rank of veterancy allowing it to just escape a kill. It also gives a spotlight to units that have a massive effect for their cost (e.g. units that reach 5 stars).

            However Ive no issue with allowing a unit's mass kills and veterancy progress being visible to all players (if it was possible)

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            • veteranasheV Offline
              veteranashe
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              Vet for t1-2 units is awesome and let's you see hero tanks.

              Lore wise it doesn't make sense

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              • EdtjuhE Offline
                Edtjuh
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                Leave it in. Serves a purpose.
                Fuel too. All gucci

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                • T Offline
                  TankenAbard
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                  I've never had veterancy matter much except for commanders and experimentals, SACUs to an extent. I also like that air does better with support fields, it makes air play a little more complex.

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                  • Accidental_AeonA Offline
                    Accidental_Aeon
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                    If you do remove veterancy then please add a healing building that will heal my land and naval units. We should be rewarded for trying to keep units alive on 1 hp.

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                    • ? Offline
                      A Former User
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                      At least we have won this battle in Sanctuary. Everyone claps

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                        A Former User @Accidental_Aeon
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                        @accidental_aeon said in No Veterancy Coalition:

                        If you do remove veterancy then please add a healing building that will heal my land and naval units. We should be rewarded for trying to keep units alive on 1 hp.

                        Repairing probably should be cost half, like in any other game

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                        • DeribusD Offline
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                          I don't see how doubling repair costs from the current 25% would help anything.

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                            A Former User @Deribus
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                            @deribus Wait, when did it become 25%? There is a point in repairing now? 😮

                            It's really hard to follow patches.

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                              @melanol

                              It's really hard to follow patches.

                              My man casually admitting "yea uh reading is actually a lot of effort, y'know". 😛

                              @melanol said in No Veterancy Coalition:

                              At least we have won this battle in Sanctuary. Everyone claps

                              This is great, because now we can refer people to that game if they insist on removing veterancy here 😄

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                                Nex @Deribus
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                                @deribus isn't repair only 25% discount now?
                                So it costs 75%

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                                • deletethisD Offline
                                  deletethis @Deribus
                                  last edited by deletethis

                                  https://patchnotes.faforever.com/balance/3709.html

                                  Ok, it's from 2019, but yeah. Would be G̶R̶E̶A̶TOP if it was 25% of the cost, but it's a 25% discount instead.

                                  Deribus Old Man Memory confirmed (also, shame on you, too lazy to go check before posting! Unacceptable!!).

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                                    Nex
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                                    But having repair too good is bad anyway, since it'll only be worth it to repair buildings since you probably won't have the amount of engies in place to repair your front line units and they can't do anything useful while being repaired.

                                    So repair is mostly a defensive tool and promoting turtling too much is bad if you want something to happen in your game instead of two sim city games next to each other.

                                    Vet is bascially like repair, but promotes aggression and sudden vets also lead to more interesting moments.

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