Telemazer - time for change?
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@thecodemander said in Telemazer - time for change?:
@gabitii Considering when people usually make tele (late game, cybran player on the losing team with lots of PGens), the infrastructure it needs, the length of the upgrade (not much late game takes that long and munches that much E to the point it often isnt all out assisted) in many cases you dont even need to scout.
Teledef on important things also defends you from other things going tele like the sera sacus which are viable to remove SMDs.
The cost of protecting the really vital stuff from tele is really not that much compared to the cost of protecting from a nuke.
Oh really? Shall I send u bunch of replays on setons for example when air player stops air for 30-50 seconds upgrades tele and kills ur grid whenit is like 20th minute? Teledef will not prevent ur grid to be killed, it just kills the acu. So the enemy suffers some damage as they dont produce air for 30 seconds but instead ur grid is in ruins and the air is completely lost. As it is a fullshare ur team is pretty much lost.
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ur legally only allowed to explain a unit has counters if you have never in ur life died to it
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@thewreck you can lose like that all the same because you were late to scout t2 or t3 air, or a t4 rush while you're ecoing up more.
the only difference is that it's actually easier to scout nukes because u have t3 spy planes and omni at that point in the game.t2 air is way harder to scout and react to than a nuke. I even frequently scout a nuke after its done and i still get an smd up in time
i actually have a mod that gives nukes a super obvious icon and it helps a lot, you should get one too if you haven't already
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@gabitii Sounds like youre more annoyed that in a fullshare game, yeeting your ACU into the enemy to do damage is kind of OP because it only robs the enemy team of 1 person of APM and solidified the eco?
I dont see how any ACU doing late game damage in a one way tele trip (which changing the tele time wont stop) is different to someone making gun lots of OC and yeeting themselves somewhere sensitive to do as much damage as possible which ends in a com bomb, and the enemy team needing to make one less HQ to scale T3.
To each his own I guess.
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@gabitii said in Telemazer - time for change?:
Shall I send u bunch of replays on setons for example when air player stops air for 30-50 seconds upgrades tele and kills ur grid whenit is like 20th minute?
Are we optimizing for the average game, or for the exceptions?
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@indexlibrorum What holds true on setons regarding telemazer holds true for any large map, lol
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What if the laser upgrade is more like the 2nd gun upgrade for Sera ACU? More against units than for telesniping.
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Guys, it becoming fucking horrible of how broken is telemazer, is nothing to react properly on telemazer, I have no idea of why teleport was buffed. I am not against teleport mechanics. On the big maps with full share it is fucking imbalanced shit. cybran acu can just fly over the map and kill everything which is not covered by anti-tele. Why u even give cybran such an imbalanced mechanics? I mean why is it so hard to make teleport and lazer in one slot? You on high rate are "gentlemen" and do not usually teleport, but there are guys in 1000-1600 rate who do it every fucking game. Why they do it? Cause it is imbalanced, in full share games you basically do not lose anything except for resources invested in it. But it does it is nothing compared of what cybran acu usually kills. Please just put teleport and laser in one slot. There is a reason why sera acu tele is not op and it is because advanced nano-repair and teleport are in one slot. It would also be op if it was in one slot, why not give sera such an option?
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ага а биллинюку и телепорт в разные слоты
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телемазер отменять собрался
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@gabitii dawg teleport "being buffed" was a bug and is fixed in beta, meaning it's coming to the main game
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@waffelznoob said in Telemazer - time for change?:
@gabitii dawg teleport "being buffed" was a bug and is fixed in beta, meaning it's coming to the main game
It is already in the release branch, it is 25 seconds now again
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epic instant response time
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@goodriddance said in Telemazer - time for change?:
телемазер отменять собрался
This guy reads in English and answers in Russian in English topics. Sanity check?
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@Melanol clown check
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Guys need to do a uef t3 com tele
Just tele around the map making a t3 land factory at each mex and tele again. The factory will make some engines and cap the mexes and then build up raiding parties.
Legit
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@veteranashe said in Telemazer - time for change?:
Guys need to do a uef t3 com tele
Just tele around the map making a t3 land factory at each mex and tele again. The factory will make some engines and cap the mexes and then build up raiding parties.
Legit
Tele billy nuke when?
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Yeah why not giving then each faction such an op teleport, why only cybran has it? Why cant you tele billy ACU as UEF or ACU with advanced nano-repair and gun splash as sera? Then it would have made more sense cause anti tele would have been a "must". But if we do not have cybran in our team and the enemy does, we MUST spend 30K on anti tele which the enemy does not, and they have one exp more just because they have cybran in the team. I do not think this is a good experience for the game
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@snagglefox what's the build time on billy nuke upgrade? I think it's fast enough that you can tele one way axe the tele for billy and go to town.
Telemazer is just easy to do
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If telebilly existed it would put teleport on UEF tech arm so it would functionally be impossible to teleport in hostile zones to billy more than once. Everything critical would be protected by shields which can absorb a singular billy anyway, beyond things like bp around navy which would require 4-5 tmd.
