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    • angelofd347hA Offline
      angelofd347h Global Moderator
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      Spooky database doesn't show damage over time pulses.

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      • haifronH Offline
        haifron @tRUErETARD
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        @trueretard the dps value takes the DoT into account but the dmg value doesn't. Also true for splitting projectiles, like in the aeon T4 arty.

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          HOSCHMOSCH
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          t3 aeon arty is unbalanced . everybody knows it nobody fix it. 2 aeon t3 artys vs 3 cyb artys. eaon wins. shitty hives shitty shields totaly inaccurate. ..

          yeah yeah i know... it matters just for gap

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          • GrimplexG Offline
            Grimplex
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            Just play more 1v1 !

            The embodiment of depression...

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              A Former User @HOSCHMOSCH
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              @hoschmosch Cybrans have too much "Surprise, motherfucker!". Utilize. Their shields are crap for a reason => strong elsewhere.

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                HOSCHMOSCH
                last edited by

                I have no problem with Telemazer being twice as expensive as it is now, as long as the Artys are balanced. And besides, with a dozen T1 towers, the "surprise motherfucker" would be taken care of directly.

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                • waffelzNoobW Offline
                  waffelzNoob @Guest
                  last edited by waffelzNoob

                  @melanol cybran stealth is 1% "surprise motherfucker!" and 99% "dang guess i gotta make a t1 air scout stream"

                  shields having low HP is also not an inherent weakness if it means they cost less & have lower buildtime, because they'll be more spammable
                  unfortunately cybran shields cost the most which is a little silly

                  i agree with hoschmosch though, aeon t3 arty has the most dps and has insanely high alpha damage which obviously makes it better at breaking through shields, and is the most accurate and all this for only 1.67% increased mass cost compared to uef, the 2nd highest dps t3 arty

                  CYB: 3700 dmg 480 dps 69600 mass
                  UEF: 5500 dmg 550 dps 72000 mass
                  AEON: 12000 dmg 600 dps 73200 mass
                  SERA: 5000 dmg 500 dps 70800 mass

                  looking at these stats its ridiculous even uef gets 10% more dps for 1.69% increased mass cost compared to sera, and then cybran also gets the short end of the stick whilst being the most inaccurate on top of all this

                  frick snoops!

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                  • D Offline
                    Dr-Soviet
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                    "but cybran were always meant to be weak defensively"

                    Being cybran in an artillery duel is a recipe for disaster.
                    Their t3 pgens being made of paper also doesn't help.

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                      HOSCHMOSCH
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                      This is not Starcraft. The faction differences in Supcom are more of an aesthetic nature rather than functional, with a few exceptions. Only the values and occasional bonuses differ. Your Monkeylord with the values of a GC would make the units completely interchangeable. If a faction is weaker within a weapon category, such as artillery, it should at least have better shields as a counterbalance. However, Eon even has better shields. The price difference is marginal and doesn't play a significant role in the stage where a T3 artillery is built.

                      As FAF has only been in existence for 13 years, it is not meant as a criticism towards the balancing team.

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                      • FtXCommandoF Offline
                        FtXCommando
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                        Difference in FAF obviously isn't aesthetic based on how tournaments play out.

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                          HOSCHMOSCH @FtXCommando
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                          @ftxcommando what do u mean

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                          • FtXCommandoF Offline
                            FtXCommando
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                            If faction was aesthetic rather than functional then dudes would just random in tournaments, pretty clear you don't do that because some maps favor some factions and that competitive edge matters when you hold other factors equal.

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                              HOSCHMOSCH
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                              sure they are examples. and like i said there are exeptions. but you are confusing functionality with weighting.

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