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    • FemtoZettaF Offline
      FemtoZetta
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      https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/3192
      It's been added to fafbeta, so you can test it there.

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        Explosive
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        Wow omg, LABs are already so strong, looks like others will realise now aswell lol

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          Marked_One
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          awww man, from 75 hp to 60? but why

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            Explosive @Marked_One
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            @Marked_One said in LAB - rumor:

            awww man, from 75 hp to 60? but why

            The mech marine is already by far the strongest LAB.
            The Heath decrease will not make its weapon worse.
            Buildtime decreases and cost.
            Yesterday I cilled a Selen, a Thaam and an Engineer with just one MechMarine

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              Explosive
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              Also buffing its speed will make it even stronger xD 😄

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                Marked_One @Explosive
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                @herzer99 i dunno pick you flavour.... 15 hp vs 5 mass and 0.2 speed... Id much rather have the hp...

                from best lab to worst lab 😞

                I guess the compensation is that strikers get big indirect buff now

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                  FtXCommando
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                  How is mech marine the strongest lab? Both the other labs have a way easier time shooting and dodging since their entire body doesnt need to turn in order to fire.

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                      Explosive @FtXCommando
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                      @FtXCommando said in LAB - rumor:

                      How is mech marine the strongest lab? Both the other labs have a way easier time shooting and dodging since their entire body doesnt need to turn in order to fire.

                      The mech marine has the biggest microing potential and very few wastet dps

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                        Explosive @Marked_One
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                        @Marked_One said in LAB - rumor:

                        @herzer99 i dunno pick you flavour.... 15 hp vs 5 mass and 0.2 speed... Id much rather have the hp...

                        from best lab to worst lab 😞

                        I guess the compensation is that strikers get big indirect buff now

                        I think the hp on a lab do not really matter

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                          Marked_One @Explosive
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                          @herzer99 its an extra shot from a striker... thats a pretty big difference from 4 shots down to 3 shots

                          comparable to the uef t1 arty being buffed by 5 hp... on paper thats nothing.. but thats an extra shot from a acu

                          also the aeon mech takes 2 shots from an acu to kill now... that's a massive difference
                          and almost double the hp of a mech for a mere 12 mass extra...

                          the mech sucks ass vs the aeon LAB now

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                            Explosive
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                            I was talking about the mech having by far the best micro potential

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                              Explosive
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                              Its cost us getting decreased and his speed increased that results into the mech marine beeing stronger in the way i like to use it

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                                FunkOff
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                                These changes look neat. Uef has better raiding optioms and Aeon has a lab tank combo. Also finally a mantis nerf.

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                                  advena
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                                  Some math:
                                  Name
                                  DPS * HP/mass - approximation of unit strength per mass 1 vs 1
                                  DPS * HP/mass^2 - approximation of unit strength equal mass N vs K (for big N and K) (not includes firing range)

                                  Flare old -> new
                                  43 -> 74
                                  1.23 -> 1.76

                                  mechmarine
                                  49 -> 47
                                  1.4 -> 1.55

                                  hunter
                                  39 -> 54
                                  1.11 -> 1.54

                                  mantis
                                  140 -> 130
                                  2.7 -> 2.32

                                  striker and thaam (for compare)
                                  129 and 130
                                  2.29 and 2.4

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                                    FunkOff
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                                    The Flare will clearly beat other labs now but it is also the slowest and most expensive lab, so it should be balanced.

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                                      Explosive
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                                      Mech marine doges acu shots xD

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                                        Psions Banned
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                                        Mech marines are based. Its like a mini peewee.

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