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    • ZeldafanboyZ Offline
      Zeldafanboy
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      Companies tend to hold onto any "AAA" IP no matter what, even if they obviously never plan to make a game with that IP ever again. I very much doubt anyone, or a collection of someones, could scrape together enough money to pay Square Enix for the rights.

      put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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      • Brutus5000B Offline
        Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
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        While that is true it's actually against shareholder value principles. As far as I can see all big companies value riskless earnings now much more than potential riskily higher earnings much later. 🤷

        "Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
        – Benno Rice

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          thecore
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          There is no harm in asking Square Enix, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The worst they could say is NO. Who knows, maybe a deal could be made.

          Never Fear, A Geek is Here!

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          • FtXCommandoF Offline
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            This has been tried. Several times over several years. Also, they spent 35 million on the IP in 2007. They aren't going to be selling it to us unless we have a Russian oil mogul playing FAF.

            In fact we DID have somebody willing to throw that sort of money around and Square Enix was still uninterested.

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            • Brutus5000B Offline
              Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
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              But that was more than half a decade ago. Things might have changed. Also I guess the hardest part is even finding the right person to talk to in such a big company. I don't know if visionik ever found the right person.

              "Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
              – Benno Rice

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              • KaletheQuickK Offline
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                The only way to get them to budge on that one is if we all stop playing and casting. We keep generating sales and until their sheets read 0ÂĄ for awhile they probably won't shift position.

                And heck this source code. If I had enough money to pull this off Square I'd have enough to hire devs and make something more modern to read in the blueprints and map files.

                Otherwise look at obscure leftover laws that allows the seizure of assets held by foreign corporations.

                You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                • FemboyF Offline
                  Femboy Promotions team @KaletheQuick
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                  @kalethequick I doubt they'll even bat an eye for it, I worry more about the fact that they will sell it to someone else because they think it became obsolete

                  FAF Website Developer

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                  • FtXCommandoF Offline
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                    FAF funds are so minor I doubt we even pay off the interest that the original 35 million could have been getting in a savings account, even if you assume literally every dollar of supreme commander since 2013 was due to FAF.

                    Square Enix bought it for cheap as a AAA title during a bankruptcy sale, they aren’t going to keel over from community action. In fact, we aren’t even certain if Square Enix themselves even HAVE the source code for this game and if they don’t the entire discussion is totally pointless because who cares about the ip.

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                        snoog
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                        Even if we somehow had the money, and SE was willing to sell, it'd probably be better to just put that much money towards developing a new, modern game.

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                          Aulex @snoog
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                          @snagglefox said in Code Wars Episode IV: A New Hope:

                          Even if we somehow had the money, and SE was willing to sell, it'd probably be better to just put that much money towards developing a new, modern game.

                          That wouldn’t be very forever of forged alliance forever.

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                          • KaletheQuickK Offline
                            KaletheQuick @FtXCommando
                            last edited by KaletheQuick

                            @ftxcommando I care about the IP. This game is what got me through that one time I accidentally made ISIS. Sorry, Middle east...

                            Though I'm willing to abandon it if we made a community built knockoff. With the United Dirt Entente, the Cyberon, and Eon Glowocracy.

                            You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                            • Brutus5000B Offline
                              Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
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                              Buying just the IP without source code would be already a major leap forward out of the legal grey area we are operating under.
                              We could not just distribute the mods, but Forged Alliance itself as all-in-one package.

                              Also theoretically we could reuse all assets in an open source rewrite attempt.
                              Using the original assets is an important aspect to keep the flair. If you rewrite something and use different assets, it's just a new game.

                              "Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
                              – Benno Rice

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                                thecore @Brutus5000
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                                @brutus5000 Well, there is really only one way to find out, reach out to square enix and see what they say. I think this is their contact page https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/contact.html

                                Maybe a partnership deal could be made or something. We can speculate on what they might say or do but at the end on the day the best way to know is just to ask even if it is a longshot.

                                Never Fear, A Geek is Here!

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