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    • SwkollS Offline
      Swkoll Global Moderator @gunner1069
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      @gunner1069 Yep! I've signed you up.

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      • RoMadQuScientistR Offline
        RoMadQuScientist
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        Hm i have to sign out again, didn't notice its clashing with the 2v2 Tourney

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        • G Offline
          gunner1069
          last edited by

          Sorry but I also need to withdraw - won't be able to be online later today

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          • I Offline
            IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
            last edited by IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO

            i would like to sign up to try to beat some AIs that will most certainly destroy me

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              IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO @Swkoll
              last edited by

              @swkoll am i in?

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              • SwkollS Offline
                Swkoll Global Moderator @IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
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                @iamtheplokokiopo Yep

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                  IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO @Swkoll
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                  @swkoll i cant download some of the mods show as they dont show up in the faf launcher is there another place i can download them from? [mods in question
                  6.Sorian AI (creator Sorian): Adaptive and 3. Skouby AI (creator Skouby)]

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                  • SwkollS Offline
                    Swkoll Global Moderator
                    last edited by Swkoll

                    Instructions for the tournament:

                    1. Join the #computercup irc channel, you can do this by clicking the "+" in the chat window and typing "#computercup"
                    2. Check what group you are in (below), this will determine which maps you play vs which AI. This ensures every AI plays each map a somewhat equal amount of time and players get different maps each game.
                    3. Starting at 15:00 UTC, everyone is going to start playing their games vs AI using this chart below from top to bottom. Everyone's first game is vs RNGAI, then AI-Swarm etc.
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                    4. Each AI mod will need to be downloaded from the vault (guide). Some AIs will require AI-Usevo to be active to work (RNGAI, AI-Swarm, Marlo's Sorian AI edit). If AI-Usevo is on please enable "Ai Map Marker Generator": "Autogenerate Always" in settings. (guide) Sorian AI is built into the client and does not require downloading.
                    5. Host each game, all games should use default spawns (slot 1 vs slot 2), you can pick whatever faction you would like, AIs should be played on random, except for DilliDalli and Marlo's Sorian AI edit whose faction picks can be found in the chart where Yellow is Seraphim, Green is Aeon, Red is Cybran, and Blue is UEF. (hosting guide)
                    6. Play each game and report the result in the #computercup channel (ie won vs Sorian AI)

                    Group 1:
                    IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
                    MajorTrouble
                    Group 2:
                    Protect
                    gonglinyuan
                    Group 3:
                    FemtoZetta
                    CowGod
                    Group 4:
                    graftod666
                    Dankmemes
                    Group 5:
                    NapSpan
                    Hemfast
                    Group 6:
                    Jip
                    ButelkaOlejku
                    Group 7:
                    Askaholic
                    coufounazeer
                    Group 8:
                    maudlin27
                    Fury
                    Group 9:
                    RandomWheelchair

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                    • SwkollS Offline
                      Swkoll Global Moderator @IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
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                      @iamtheplokokiopo Sorian AI is built into the client and doesn't require downloading, Skouby's AI is actually called SACUAI and the post has been updated to reflect this.

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                      • JipJ Offline
                        Jip
                        last edited by Jip

                        Here's the list of games played:

                        • Marlo's edit: https://replay.faforever.com/14790965
                        • Sorian: https://replay.faforever.com/14790846
                        • Uveso: https://replay.faforever.com/14790778
                        • Dilli: https://replay.faforever.com/14790634
                        • SCAI: https://replay.faforever.com/14790450
                        • Swarm: https://replay.faforever.com/14790350
                        • Emerald: https://replay.faforever.com/14790174

                        edit: not all games have the right name - I forgot to edit them in between at times

                        A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                        • maudlin27M Offline
                          maudlin27
                          last edited by maudlin27

                          Replay IDs for my games (AI lost them all):

                          • Saltrock Colony - RNG Standard - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790159
                          • Theta Passage - FAF Version - Swarm Terror - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790304
                          • Emerald Crater - AI: SACU - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790414
                          • Crossfire Canal - FAF version - DilliDalli - AI Faction Aeon; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790669
                          • Polar Depression - Uveso Adaptive - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790783
                          • Open Palms - FAF Version - Sorian Adaptive - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790918
                          • Summer Duel - Marlo's Sorian AI edit: Adaptive - AI Faction Cybran; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14791298

                          A couple of points that struck me in particular while playing:
                          DilliDalli - I first played on the map with it as Sera (forgot it was meant to be Aeon) and the Com charged to an island alone allowing an easy kill with air.
                          Tried again with them as Aeon thinking it was just that it shouldve had hover units to support, but it did the same thing

                          SACU AI - the AI appeared to send all (or most) of it's land army out of the way to attack one wall segment that my Engi had built on an island before it died (there was nothing of value of mine nearby and I had no units there)

                          M27AI and M28AI developer; Devlogs and more general AI development guide:
                          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v71-devlog
                          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v130

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                          • TheVVheelboyT Offline
                            TheVVheelboy
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                            PoR - RNG AI - https://replay.faforever.com/14789914
                            Saltrock - Swarm - https://replay.faforever.com/14790411
                            Theta - SacuAI - https://replay.faforever.com/14790510
                            Emerald crater - dili dali - https://replay.faforever.com/14790595
                            Crossfire - Uveso - https://replay.faforever.com/14790706
                            Poalr depression - Sorian - https://replay.faforever.com/14790971
                            Open palms - Sorian Edit - https://replay.faforever.com/14791082

                            Imo the one with most potential is dili. Could see it kicking ass of some -200 - 300 rated players in ladder.

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                            • FemtoZettaF Offline
                              FemtoZetta
                              last edited by FemtoZetta

                              AI Map Replay comment
                              RNGAI Open Palms https://replay.faforever.com/14791086 forgot to turn on markers the first time, so this is the second attempt
                              AI-Swarm Summer Duel https://replay.faforever.com/14790327
                              SACUAI Cobalt Valley https://replay.faforever.com/14790415
                              AI: DilliDalli Point of Reach https://replay.faforever.com/14790493
                              AI-Uveso Saltrock Colony https://replay.faforever.com/14790667
                              Sorian AI Theta Passage https://replay.faforever.com/14790773
                              Sorian Edit Emerald Crater https://replay.faforever.com/14790869
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                              • DeribusD Offline
                                Deribus Global Moderator
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                                Damn Femto, fancy

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                                • MajorTroubleM Offline
                                  MajorTrouble
                                  last edited by MajorTrouble

                                  Screenshot 2021-06-26 133534.png

                                  Some things I noted while playing

                                  SACU AI might've actually competed with me had it done any reclaim, it had ample opportunity but didn't

                                  Sorian Edit didn't build any hydro plants

                                  DilliDalli was VERY aggressive - I liked that, too many new players including myself have to learn to be aggressive and the AI generally aren't aggressive enough to teach that

                                  AI Swarm gave me the most trouble and if it weren't for the 45 min time limit, it would've been a loss for me
                                  I might've done better with a different faction(aeon probably) but regardless, well done to the dev

                                  Also, I copied the graph from FemtoZetta-Very Nice

                                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790162
                                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790329
                                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790775
                                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790896
                                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790994
                                  https://replay.faforever.com/14791317
                                  https://replay.faforever.com/14791498

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                                  • S Offline
                                    Softles
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                                    AI vs AI game results are as follows:

                                    Place AI Points
                                    1 RNG Standard 47
                                    2 DilliDalli 43.5
                                    3 Swarm Terror 32.5
                                    4 SACU AI 22.5
                                    5 Sorian Adaptive 19.5
                                    6 Uveso Adaptive 16
                                    7 Sorian Edit Adaptive 8

                                    Head to head results:
                                    (AI by row, opponent by column, points are "for the AI, against the opponent")

                                    AI\Opponent DilliDalli RNG Standard SACU AI Sorian Adaptive Sorian Edit Adaptive Swarm Terror Uveso Adaptive
                                    DilliDalli - 4.5 6.5 7.5 9 7 9
                                    RNG Standard 4.5 - 8 8 9 8.5 9
                                    SACU AI 2.5 1 - 5.5 7 3 3.5
                                    Sorian Adaptive 1.5 1 3.5 - 7 1 5
                                    Sorian Edit Adaptive 0 0 2 1 - 1 3.5
                                    Swarm Terror 2 0.5 6 8 8 - 8
                                    Uveso Adaptive 0 0 5.5 4 5.5 1 -

                                    Raw (JSON formatted) results as output from my script: results.txt

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                                    • SwkollS Offline
                                      Swkoll Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Results:

                                      Congrats to RNGAI by relent0r and chp2001 for winning the overall tournament and AI vs AI with 47 points total!

                                      Additionally, congrats to AI: DilliDalli by Softles for winning the Player vs AI portion of the tournament with 1 point!

                                      An honorable mention goes to AI-Swarm by Azraeel for being the only other AI to score points in the player vs AI portion of the tournament and for coming in 3rd overall.

                                      Overall results:

                                      1. RNGAI
                                      2. AI: DilliDalli
                                      3. AI-Swarm
                                      4. SACUAI
                                      5. Sorian AI
                                      6. AI-Uveso
                                      7. Marlo's Sorian AI Edit

                                      AI vs AI Results:

                                      1. RNGAI
                                      2. AI: DilliDalli
                                      3. AI-Swarm
                                      4. SACUAI
                                      5. Sorian AI
                                      6. AI-Uveso
                                      7. Marlo's Sorian AI Edit

                                      Player vs AI Results:

                                      1. AI: DilliDalli
                                      2. AI-Swarm

                                      Thanks to everyone who made AIs to participate and to all the players who showed up to help benchmark the AIs.

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                                      • R Offline
                                        relentless
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                                        Thanks for organising Swkoll! and the players for providing some interesting replays to ponder over (and whoever did the twitch cast as they pointed out where the AI's were failing by comparison to the humans they were fighting).

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                                        • UtopianU Offline
                                          Utopian
                                          last edited by

                                          Damn, Uveso did much worse than I was expecting to be honest. Props to RNG though!

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                                          • archsimkatA Offline
                                            archsimkat
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                                            @relentless Swkoll also did the twitch cast!

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