I wrote a reply last week and a fix PR but forgot to post lol: I didn't see arty in that replay, but I found it in #23022644. Unfortunately it is desynced so idk if the replay shows the truth of what happened. For those who didn't watch the replay it's dualgap and a player built arty up on the cliff next to the bases and the arty can't shoot because the muzzle velocity characteristics don't give a possible firing solution, as you can see in the screenshot there are very few possible firing locations: [image: 1722731865757-462ac479-80fb-4bbb-a3df-0c038e5ad8be-image.png]

Another possibility is also to ask the observers to leave on their own before the game starts. So why did this bug come back? I personally never had this, ever and I was one of the original players that bought Forged Alliance back when it was brand new. Can you guys also keep the debugging switched on so you can submit the logs? Where should we submit the collected logs?

I see. Well, I'm glad we do have a rating system, Forged Alliance (under GPGnet) did not have anything. I was not aware it had that many problems. Thanks for explaining it.

OMG, you are right. I have tons of templates and I can create templates of everything, the template button is automatically pressed normally. I don't know why it isn't in this case. It was just a weird anomaly. Now it works, thanks.