Outsourcing new CPU scores for lobbies

Uveso

old: 144 new: 123 - ( i7-6700K DDR4 )
old: 156 new: 152 - ( i7-4790K DDR3 )
old: 184 new: 155 - ( Ryzen 5 DDR4 )
old: 327 new: 333 - ( Q8400 DDR2 )

keyser

@notales said in Outsourcing new CPU scores for lobbies:

Setup
i5-2310 at 2,95 Ghz
Integrated grafiks
8 GB DDR3

CPU score old
241

CPU score new
289

After 20 min gameplay I ussally got to -1 max at setons
In most dual gap maps -2 when around 45 to 1 hour if im unlucky.
In 99% of all the games I play im not the one slowing games down. Never got enyone wanting me to leave. Now they just dont want me in the lobbys enymore at all
Have 1,1k games played without eny problems, but I gues I wont be allowed to play this game from now on.

those are speed evaluation made before the performance changes right ?

Mr_Blastman

Old: 178
New: 178

Crap tier 3770k @ 4.2Ghz
1080 GTX
16 gigs RAM

NoTales

@keyser yes

Jip

i7-9750H @ 2.6ghz
16gb DDR3

old: 162.
new: 131 if it triggers bezerk mode, 180 otherwise.

Ryzen 5 3600 @ 3.6ghz
64gb DDR4 (2000mhz)
old: 144
new: 154

Exselsior

Old: 95
New: 98

Running a Ryzen 5600x with 64GB of DDR4 ram at 1600mhz 16-18-18-38-74 which isn't what I expected, looks like I need to fix my memory speed again since it should be 2400mhz. Wouldn't be surprised if that's my missing 3 points of score.

brainstormer

@randomwheelchair
Old score: ~250
New score: 330!!!

Cpu: i7-3740QM, 16GB DDR3

Although the game experience didnt change for me, its quite impossible for me to play now: I simply get kicked from games, and explaining the high cpu score doesnt work and severely demoralizing, although I never had lag problems even on Gap-like maps in Endgame phases.

Made this pic in late game just before a desync, its evident I'm not the reason for the bottleneck.

Here's my Ram setup:
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BlackYps

This looks like really low RAM Frequency. Have you checked that your RAM runs at the highest clock it can handle?

Morax

Is there a way to find your old cpu score? I forgot mine!

Sheikah

@morax said in Outsourcing new CPU scores for lobbies:

Is there a way to find your old cpu score? I forgot mine!

You could watch an old replay get that version then start the game offline and run it

TheVVheelboy

@blackyps
I'm quite sure that's the proper advertised ram speed he would get with that CPU, considering that 1800mhz ram was still considered to be on the higher end of spectrum at the time when his CPU was released. So yeah, 1600mhz ram in a laptop of that age seems like exactly what you would get in mid-higher end laptop.

Giebmasse

Yea it is normal speed for DDR3 memory.

BlackYps

I was just asking because there were already multiple people that noticed their ram was clocked lower than it could be

Katharsas

@brainstormer

Generally i woul'd never advertise UserBenchmark.com, because they are extremly biased against newer Ryzen CPUs, but can you execute their Benchmark and check how your RAM compares? It will tell you how well other people with the same hardware did. We need to find out if your RAM is actually slow for some reason or if there is a problem with the new RAM banchmark.

brainstormer

UserBenchmarks: Game 8%, Desk 65%, Work 7%
CPU: Intel Core i7-3740QM - 71.9%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 660M - 7.6%
SSD: Intel 520 Series 120GB - 50.9%
HDD: Seagate ST2000LM015-2E8174 2TB - 60.1%
RAM: Unknown 78.C2GCN.B730C 2x8GB - 55%
MBD: Clevo W3x0ET

I understand that 1600MHz DDR3 is outdated, but my config is not subpar and doesn't deserve 330 pts. Can we make a test round of Gap or similar map with some of the admins?

Katharsas

Ok well there is no data for this RAM in the Userbenchmark database, so that doesn't give us any information sadly.

Giebmasse

You have the speed and timings, pretty much all you need to compare ram speed.

meatontable

CPU: Intel I7-7700
MB ASUS Z270 TUF 2
RAM : 16 GB DDR4
Integrated graphic
Old CPU: 141
New CPU: 273
No Lag in game

Katharsas

@giebmasse

Yeah but the question is, why are some new scores so bad? Does the new benchmark heavily tax smaller CPU cache sizes or something? That would explain it maybe?

In my opinion it would be a bit extreme to have CPUs with 6-8MB L3 cache have so much worse scores, if that is the case (Ryzen 3xxx has 16MB per CCX, modern i7 like 20MB).

Or does it maybe just measure bandwith? Thats would be only half of the story, latency can be just as important.

Of course DDR3 has much less bandwith, but it does not have worse latency than DDR4, which is probably kinda more important than bandwith.

We need some information what exactly the new RAM benchmark is measuring.

Giebmasse

Here you can see what it does: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/blob/741febf45a165e257db972fc2104484a51dd799d/lua/ui/lobby/lobby.lua#L5228