Absolver
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"Gastraphetes" would fit better, in that case.
Or "Hoplite"... but, since Hoplite is already taken...A "Gastraphetes" was a type of bow used to fire from afar, and since this unit fires from afar...
"Xiphos" is a sword... made for close-range combat.
Cool name for a unit, though.
"Phalanx" would fit, too.
~ Stryker
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I feel like that name is a bit too long, but I think Xiphos can still fit because this is an anti shield unit, and a xhiphos was a short sword which meant you could more easily get it around an opponent’s shield than a spear. (Basically the only reason it would be used, swords were always sidearms)
Phalanx sounds a bit generic imo but it’s fine
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Peltast?
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@comradestryker said in Absolver:
"Phalanx" would fit, too.
just fyi phalanx is already a name for UEF tmd weapon
I suggest ballista since trebutchet is already a name for cybran t3 mobile arty, and pretty sure ballista shot would punch right through a shield just like this unit is supposed to do
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Where exactly do Cybran names derive from?
They obviously have a root in Greek names, but what else?I'm thinking mainly because some units have strange names, at least I think so.
IE: Soul Ripper, Mermaid, etc.And some don't even make the slightest sense to me:
IE: Salem, Brick, Bouncer, etc.
~ Stryker
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well bouncer was added by FAF as all t3 mobile aa were, it doesn't exist in vanilla FA
and some names do make no sense but many units (esp. experimental) were named after FA developers, such as mavor, scathis etc, even wagner is named after a developer and it isn't even an experimental for example, so maybe it's from there for some of those too, otherwise idk
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The Tagada : Cybran T3 Mobile Shield Disrupter.
~ Stryker
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How about some sort of Greek witch:
Hecate
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Circe is really good I vote for that one
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I wonder how will stationary shields be able to hold against Cybran now, with Vipers already making tacdef useless.
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Vipers are mediocre against firebases after the TMD targeting improvements, it's just that the other MML are garbage. You need a clump of like 10 vipers to start chewing through a firebase at any reasonable speed and half of that can get deleted by just one T2 arty hit or some T1 bomber sweeps
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Another brainstorm, maybe turn Fire Beetles into Amp Beetles, and have them also detonate on shields and disable them - 1.5k dmg to shields.
Or add T2 'Amp Ram' unit that has personal stealth, and it attack shields from somewhat small range - just big enough to stand outside Sera T3 shields (so you don't get the odd behaviour of it going inside a shield and then not doing anything xD).
On the topic of names... As already mentioned, original names are kinda all over the place, but two main themes are 'animals/mythical beings' (Mole, Mantis, Medusa, Rhino, Viper, Fire Beetle, Cerberus, Dragon Fly, Cormorant, Barracuda, Siren, Mermaid), 'professions' (Hunter, Hoplite, Loyalist, Deceiver, Disruptor, Guardian, Corsair, Renegade, Revenant, Wailer, Jester, Prowler, Soothsayer) and 'greek-stuff' (Zeus, Myrmidon, Olympus, Salem, Gemini, as well as some stuff from the previous 2 categories) which is also kinda all over the place in and of itself. Despite what many are arguing, there isn't actually any cohesion. You could say 'greek', but if anything there are more animals. But so are there plenty in say UEF.
Whatever the name, what I'm not liking is the current trend of 'a thing that breaks the shield', because they kill shields, but in reality, the purpose of the shield is more akin to walls and other fortifications. So yeah, if we are going the direction of defense-neutralization and in particular 'siege weapons', "Trebuchet" is already taken; "Ram" kinda sounds lame (though it does have the double source of both animal and siege weapon), "Scorpio" sounds very good to me (though again it was more of an anti-infantry weapon, rather than anti-fortification), "Catapult" doesn't seem fitting.
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Anything ever come of this discussion? Anybody making a demo unit for this?
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At this point in the balance structure, I kinda hope not.
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Idea wasn’t liked by balance team so it died.
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@ftxcommando we dont have a balance team, we have despots. it's easier to throw out cybran faction.
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@noble_ice said in Absolver:
@ftxcommando we dont have a balance team, we have despots. it's easier to throw out cybran faction.
Hey, hey... No need to get mad at them.
They're fans of the game just like you and me.
They understand the game far better than any one of us.If they make a change, they share a reason why, and if it doesn't work out, they revert it.
Also, the Cybran faction has had some serious improvements over the last few balance patches. (2023)
Some notable ones:
- Salem range & HP increase
- ACU Regen increase + Nano upgrade
- Deceiver stealth range increase
- Brick & Wagner torpedo damage increase
- Brick range increase
- SoulRipper Rework
etc. etc. etc.
You can find the patchnotes for everything else here.
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The brick and Salem range increase are the two I've felt the most.
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@comradestryker what does cibran have to counter the FAVORITISM of the UEF team?
t1 units land sea air/ mantises, medusa (good when they hit) and jasters, but jaster only if you want to hit aggressive com on t1, everyone says they have good frigates, but i don't see that. labs are memes, good for the ghetto.
t2 land/ rhinos and snakes. these units are good
hoplite it's bad, only good 1 out of 10 games
Wagner's good unit
firebittles are my favorite units in the game and I want to use them in every game but it's hard very hard to do relevant damage
deciver is not relevant when the enemy just spams t1 scout, just a waste of mass and energy!t2 air corsair good for sniper, best sniper in the game (but that doesn't make him powerful)
t2 navy destroyer ok, they have a good range, they have a good buff, and that's it.
cruisers are not bad not good they have a range of 70 if i remember and similar damage to destroyers.
marmeide is a good unit but fails when enemy spam t1 scout!t3 land loyalist pls can't redirect billy nuke vtf but they are good to counter uef t2 governors
Brick good unit, flexible
trebuchet I don't see any use for this in a team game, but in 1v1 it can work. maybe it would be a good idea to change themGunter are too inaccurate, every faction has shields so it will never be good to invest in it, and they drop the range to 115. WHY? How do you defend against battleships?
t3 air is good.
monkey lord is cheap and good for its price, but not powerful.
HARRMS how can this be more expensive than a destroyer (how can this be balanced)? it was good to use a cloak of sacu or acu. gives you a chance to get back in the water. this was the ONLY thing uef had trouble countering. it was expensive but good, now it's just expensive and useless.
ACU good new upgrades, but not that relevant, they nerfed the laser and didn't reduce the mass or energy, and they will change the teleport, so good bye telemasor. why not give the acu an upgrade aa like on the sacu.
Hives destroyed it, kennels are better (mobile unit) can't beat a hive. they should give hives and upgrade to choose mobile upgrade. the old hive was good not this one and they are too expensive .this bothers me like champ yumi u lol .
Soul Ripper I don't want to talk about it. I'm disgusted with how he reworked, I want the old man back.
megalith very expensive unit, not a treat for uef. how can this be a similar price to the novax, when the novax is a far superior unit.
they say uef doesn't have such good t2 land air sea, so it's not true. they have a good list of military for every situation. None of the above is a threat to the UEF.
I'm not angry, I'm just dissatisfied with the way the team balances because they favor the UEF, it's obvious and there's no need for them to do that, it's the strongest army. they have everything they need to win every game, even those that are not in their favor.
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... are you sure you actually read through the explanations of the patches?
