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    What makes you more or less likely to join the 2v2 matchmaker queue?

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    • MoraxM Offline
      Morax @Cyborg16
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      @cyborg16 said in What makes you more or less likely to join the 2v2 matchmaker queue?:

      I usually join all three, or only 1v1 or only 4v4.

      Probably the worst point about 2v2 is that you can have unbalanced teams (e.g. 1200 + 1800 vs two 1500) which can be quite significant; with 4v4 it's usually less of an issue simply due to having more players.

      Could not agree more, and tried to address this awhile back. @BlackYps @Sheikah can we please adjust? I am fairly certain this is a major factor in 2v2 issues still after this long:

      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/1431/tmm-rating-allowance-needs-to-use-ladder-1v1-matching-or-close-to-it?_=1671411166143

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        Sheikah
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        BlackYps already made changes to add greater cost to rating disparity. See here https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4945/allow-us-to-pick-rating-brackets-for-tmm/58 and https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5170/matchmaker-update

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          Xayo
          last edited by Xayo

          I like team games. I like the split of responsibilities, the progress through all the tech stages, and adapting towards what my team needs.

          I find teams of 4-5 players ideal for this. With more players than that, my impact on the game becomes so tiny that the game result might as well be random. Any less, and it tends to lead to every player having to do everything (large mental drain -> not something I enjoy as relaxation after work), and games being more prone towards mostly t1 stage.

          So it's just a personal preference toward 4-5 player teams. 2v2 is too much like 1v1 for me. And I don't enjoy 1v1.

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          • MoraxM Offline
            Morax @Sheikah
            last edited by Morax

            @sheikah said in What makes you more or less likely to join the 2v2 matchmaker queue?:

            BlackYps already made changes to add greater cost to rating disparity. See here https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4945/allow-us-to-pick-rating-brackets-for-tmm/58 and https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5170/matchmaker-update

            It does not appear to be working that well:

            https://replay.faforever.com/18776829

            Should a 2k+ really be getting paired with a 900? I will admittedly say I did not read the full context, but even so, after getting this reported and checking other games, it seems like it is not addressing the issue.

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            • AmygdalaA Offline
              Amygdala @Morax
              last edited by Amygdala

              @morax good chance that both teams are premades in the game you linked.
              However i am not so sure about this beeing the case in this one https://replay.faforever.com/18757301

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                Morax @Amygdala
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                @amygdala said in What makes you more or less likely to join the 2v2 matchmaker queue?:

                @morax good chance that both teams are premades in the game you linked.
                However i am not so sure about this beeing the case in this one https://replay.faforever.com/18757301

                No, it's not a premade. Grimplex sent this to me as we were discussing:

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                • RobustnessR Offline
                  Robustness
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                  random vs. team

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                  • AmygdalaA Offline
                    Amygdala
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                    Ah nevermind then, didnt know you got it from grimplex.
                    I agree that 900s shouldnt be thrown into battle with 2ks (like the above examples with grimplex and turin). The limit in rating difference should not be more than 500 points or so.

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                    • BlackYpsB Offline
                      BlackYps
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                      Are you ready to defend the increase in search time that would cause?

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                        Exselsior
                        last edited by Exselsior

                        If I see enough people in queue I typically click all three. Sometimes I'll just click ladder if there are fewer than two people in the 2v2 or 4 in the 4v4 queue.

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                          Morax @BlackYps
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                          • FemboyF Offline
                            Femboy Promotions team
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                            The rating disparity, in 2v2 Im like a 1k so I get matched with other 1k people but I’m more around 1.5k so I just steamroll super hard and I feel really bad for everyone involved. However, 50% of the time I do get a quality match so it’s pretty decent but not like 4v4 where it always feels balanced

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