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    • NOC-N Offline
      NOC-
      last edited by

      Just build shields??

      Ras Boi's save lives.

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      • QuietJoyQ Offline
        QuietJoy
        last edited by QuietJoy

        Respectfully - "It ruins the entire aspect of how forged alliance is intended to play" I don't believe anyone is the single authority on how FA is intended to play.

        Turtling players are always at a disadvantage. This game is rock/paper/scissors. Look at what your opponent has and find their weakness then exploit it. There is always a counter. Always. A static base is literally a sitting target for you to pick apart. You can see exactly whats there and not.

        As Zokora says some maps are strategy dependent. And some are not fun to play for that reason (imho). FAF has a bazillion fun maps, try a new one for a change.

        T3 arty is easily defended. You get some shields and you reinforce them with a good number of engineers, making sure you have mass in the bank to spend on helping the shield regen.

        The mass they spent on a T3 arty was not spent on units for them. So you should have a vastly larger army which should have wrecked your opponent. The time it takes to build a T3 arty is time you have to plan and execute a strategy.

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        • FtXCommandoF Offline
          FtXCommando
          last edited by FtXCommando

          I haven't seen a t3 arty in like 50 games.

          If you don't play hilly/dual gap/astro you are pretty much guaranteed to rarely see the unit. If you're tired of it, play any of the matchmakers.

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          • FemboyF Offline
            Femboy Promotions team
            last edited by

            I have played more than 1,000 1v1 ladder games and I have NEVER seen t3 arty on it. As others have said, Dualgap and astro are maps where t3 arty comes up a lot, but outside of it, its almost non-existent.

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            • FtXCommandoF Offline
              FtXCommando @CoinLazer
              last edited by

              @coinlazer said in Nerf t3 arti:

              T3 artillery is in every game I play no matter what map it is, large, small or medium.

              Your last 100 games are all the exact same astro map btw

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              • veteranasheV Offline
                veteranashe
                last edited by

                I'm starting to think there should be a official mod and forum topic of gap balence.

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                • ZeldafanboyZ Offline
                  Zeldafanboy
                  last edited by

                  The complaints about point defense and flak being op too are very telling

                  Stop playing the same map and you’ll stop seeing the same strategy.

                  put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                  • maudlin27M Offline
                    maudlin27
                    last edited by maudlin27

                    Even on astro (assuming its the non-rich version) there are a number of alternatives and counters to T3 arti and lots of options for ending the game before it even gets to that point. You'll also usually need 2-3 T3 arti to break through an enemy base with shields being a mass efficient defence in response to a single T3 arti due to how compact bases tend to be (1 T3 shield can cover your entire base if you've built it with T3 arti protection in mind)

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                    https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v71-devlog
                    https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v130

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                    • Z Offline
                      Zokora
                      last edited by

                      @maudlin27 It is the rich only version. 🙂

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                      • LunyshkoL Offline
                        Lunyshko
                        last edited by

                        Just turn off t3 arty in unit restrictions.

                        "Good luck and a safe landing commanders!"

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                        • C Offline
                          CoinLazer
                          last edited by

                          Alright lock this thread I'm sick of the excuses for people simping on artillery.

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                          • Z Offline
                            Zokora
                            last edited by

                            The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.

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                            • ZeldafanboyZ Offline
                              Zeldafanboy @CoinLazer
                              last edited by

                              @coinlazer

                              I’m not simping(???) for T3 artillery, I generally dislike turtle games that end up with lots of passive ecoing and sim city gameplay which lead to T3 arty. I’m saying that T3 arty are only useful on a very specific type of map. If you play a different map, you will see different strategies. It’s got nothing to do with the balance of the T3 artillery. If you want T3 arty to be nerfed such that nobody makes them even on turtle choke point maps then they’d be unusable. Might as well be asking to remove the unit from the game.

                              put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                              • ResistanceR Offline
                                Resistance
                                last edited by

                                t3 stationary arty is a meme tbh

                                queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                                • ValkiV Offline
                                  Valki @CoinLazer
                                  last edited by Valki

                                  @coinlazer said in Nerf t3 arti:

                                  Alright lock this thread I'm sick of the excuses for people simping on artillery.

                                  Yes please lock this thread @Deribus ? It is painful to see such needless ripping on OP.

                                  Fewer people could have made the same point and have had the same discussion with OP.

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                                    Deribus Global Moderator
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                                    Locked

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